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Thoughts about the 'cons' from this review on a TiVoHD

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by videobruce, Dec 29, 2012.

  1. takeshi

    takeshi New Member

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    Never experienced any of these. Why are you choosing to fixate on this one particular review? Always consider the source and corroborate.

    In this particular case, the pros and cons section is a section where anyone can add a pro or con. Note that the site itself is named ProductWiki. Wikis tend to come with a huge caveat given their nature.

    No telling. There's no way to know who made that comment and you'd have to ask that person. We have no idea how the person made the assessment, what equipment was used, how the equipment was connected or how the picture quality was compared. It's certainly possible that the external tuner used did have better picture quality. It's also possible that the person arbitrarily decided that the external tuner was better for some reason or for some preference that others might not share with that person. Some people like enhanced sharpness, for example while others don't care for it. That's just one example and there are a number of factors that can affect image quality. There are any number of other reasons why this conclusion could have been incorrectly reached. It's anyone's guess with this review and there's no way that I know of to verify or really to dig into it. I'd mark this review as dubious and wouldn't even seriously factor it in to my decision making but you're certainly welcome to use it if you think it's relevant.

    If you're sure of these things then I'm not sure why you're asking us. Use whatever method you used to verify the testing process that the commenter used.

    I wouldn't recommend assuming anything -- especially when evaluating a review like this.
     
  2. videobruce

    videobruce OTA is still alive

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    I'm not "fixating" on anything other than the fact there were comments I haven't seen before. I could of easily missed something, somewhere reading other reviews. Or something that wasn't apparent with the reviewer. Not everyone uses every facet of a product. Some have specif needs or issues that won't come up with others.
    I prefer to cover all known issues first as much as possible. It's impossible to think of everything.

    Ironically, I also came across this review in Amazon.;
    http://www.amazon.com/review/R1CQDD...0RZDBM2&linkCode=&nodeID=&tag=#wasThisHelpful

    Specifically this;
    Yes, I know it's an Amazon review, but this guy is surely above the average 5 star review level just because the person owns the product.
    Another example of something that I haven't read;
    Comments; especially about the optical output being only 2 channel PCM? Is this true?
     
  3. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    He's practicing up to be a spammer, ignore him.
     
  4. teasip

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    I'm not sure about the Toslink reference just above. I have my TiVoHD connected to my receiver via Toslink and it shows DD 5.1 on the display and seems to output 5.1 through the speakers. I would think that others would have chimed in if this indeed were the case.
     
  5. Arcady

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    I'm pretty sure they would print the "Dolby Digital" logo on the front of the TiVo if it didn't work. :D
     
  6. videobruce

    videobruce OTA is still alive

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    If it worked just over HDMI, the logo would still be correct. Right? ;)

    How about the other quote regarding PQ and the statement about "native"? Is that something about pixel mapping to a flat panel (LCD or Plasma) or something else?
     
  7. Arcady

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    Native is when you tell the TiVo to output at the resolution of whatever the program is. So a 720p broadcast on ABC would be output at 720p, and a 1080i broadcast on NBC would be output at 1080i. Your TV will switch to that resolution as needed, but many TV sets are slow to change, so it can get annoying pretty fast. I have all of my boxes set to output at one resolution so I don't have to wait for the TV to switch. I can't see any difference on my hardware, but others disagree. That's why you have a choice.
     
  8. videobruce

    videobruce OTA is still alive

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    Understood, thanks.
    Both of these examples seems to be lack of technical understanding.
     
  9. cubsinaz

    cubsinaz New Member

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    Specifically this;

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    HD Picture quality is also far superior with Samsung HD digital tuner than TiVo tuner.

    Just cut the cable cord and went total OTA.

    When changing inputs on my Samsung TV, the OTA straight antenna hook up has a great picture. When I switch input to HDMI (through Tivo) on the same station, the picture becomes almost washed out, high contrast.

    Was wondering if there is some type of fix for this. Have not had any of the other problems mentioned.
     
  10. Arcady

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    Some TV sets have picture controls for each input, so if you lower contrast, brightness, etc. it only has an effect on that input. Maybe the HDMI input has different picture settings than the tuner input?
     
  11. cubsinaz

    cubsinaz New Member

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    I was thinking around those lines. I know Tivo's output can be controlled (it can be setup to native, 1080p, 1080i, etc) so if my tv handles antenna input differently than HDMI input, could be the case. Possible HDMI is displayed as "X" settings and antenna another.

    Will look at manual on my Samsung.
     
  12. videobruce

    videobruce OTA is still alive

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    Have you calibrated that input using a test DVD? Many times, there is a difference using the sets internal tuner and one of the direct inputs.
     

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