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This Channel is Not Authorized

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by h0sti1e17, Oct 22, 2011.

  1. h0sti1e17

    h0sti1e17 New Member

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    I got a new Premiere on Thursday and have several channels saying this. First a cable card screen comes up giving me the Phone # for my cable provider, Cable Card ID and Host ID. After I it clear it has the banner at the bottom that says "This Channel is Not Authorized". After contacting my cable company (Cox Northern VA) they sent a hit and said give it an hour. No change so I called again they said they need to send a tech out. One is coming out tomorrow. I also have a tuning adapter. I had a TiVo HD before this, and all these channels work fine. I am basically missing my HBOs, Cinemax channels, and mainly my sports channels (NFL, NHL, NBA networks, BigTen Network ect ect).

    To me this sounds more like something on their back end and not giving me proper authorization, but after 3 calls if that was the case I am guessing they would have figured it out.

    My questions are this...Is there something else to check on my end before them come out? Is there something I should have them check? Could this be the TiVo? If there is no chance it is the TiVo, I don't want them to give me that answer.

    Thanks in Advance
     
  2. Arcady

    Arcady Stargate Fan

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    I had the same messages on most of the non-local HD channels when they installed a CableCard in my Elite this morning. The person at the cable company sent another "hit" to the card and it started working fine. There should be no reason to have a truck roll.
     
  3. garys

    garys New Member

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    I've spent seriously about 8 hours on the phone with Comcast over the past 24 hours. They can't get either of my Elites working. The sad thing for Tivo is that this is Comcast's screw up, and I'm going to end up returning my Tivos (within the 30 day full refund window) because four tuners are useless if they can't tune anything.

    They are sending a tech over tomorrow who I'm sure will not be able to fix this.
     
  4. jfh3

    jfh3 New Member

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    It is a head-end problem. There is absolutely nothing a field visit is going to change. They do not have the card properly authorized/staged.
     
  5. h0sti1e17

    h0sti1e17 New Member

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    That is what I thought. I don't think a tech will fix it. Maybe when he gets here he will be able to get someone on his end to check it after he changes the CableCard. From what I understand the only change they made was changing the equipment from 2 single stream cards to 1 multi stream card. I just don't see how what I am authorized for could have changed.
     
  6. gtaylor

    gtaylor Member

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    I had a similar problem.

    Comcast did a truck roll and I ended up with three techs onsite at the same time, all on their phones to different desks.

    One of their contacts determined that my (self-installed) CableCard had been activated as a cable modem. They flipped that remotely and in about 12 minutes all was good.

    gary
     
  7. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    +1

    And I fear most of us have had to put up with this nonsense at least once. I certainly have, and the people I know that have TiVo's have too. It absolutely does not require any type of field visit. They simply do not have the account set up correctly.

    Why is it approaching 2012 and cable company's tech support departments are still so incredibly clueless???
     
  8. garys

    garys New Member

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    Cable companies rent crappy DVRs for a lot more money than they earn renting cable cards. They have no incentive to help Tivo compete with them for the DVR market. Absent regulatory requirements that they provide cable cards, I'm sure they wouldn't allow them at all.
     
  9. innocentfreak

    innocentfreak Active Member

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    This is also why you should file a "complaint" documenting your experience with the FCC once you get it resolved or give up completely. These are the things the FCC needs to hear if we ever expect them to actually try to fix it.

    http://esupport.fcc.gov/complaints.htm
     
  10. garys

    garys New Member

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    Funny you mention that. I already had the FCC complaint page open in a browser tab. At some point, making cable cards on third party devices an ordeal becomes indistinguishable from refusing to support them at all. At over 8 hours of effort with no results, I'd say in my case Comcast has functionally refused to allow my to use them in a TiVo. Yes, they're still offering to work with me on it, but no consumer should have to sacrifice multiple full days to make up for comcast's inability to correctly set an entry in a database at the head end. Regardless of the outcome, the FCC will get documentation of how this went down.
     
  11. h0sti1e17

    h0sti1e17 New Member

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    It took Comcast 3 weeks to get my TiVo HD to work right. One tuner was the only one working for that whole time.

    Cox on the other hand, got me set up day one with my TiVo HD, never had issues including installing the Tuning Adapter myself. That is why I am surprised Cox is giving me issues this time around. They are usually very good in my area.
     
  12. justinw

    justinw New Member

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    A tech from the cable company won't do anything himself but they have the numbers for their support guys most of which know what they are doing. Honestly I'd rather demand a free truck roll than waste 8 plus hours on the phone. More than likely when the tech arrives the problem will be fixed in 5 minutes.
     
  13. DILands

    DILands New Member

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    Mine took around 4 hours for the channels to come in. It was Friday night - I had actually gone to bed - my wife emailed me when she saw the channels.
     
  14. tomhorsley

    tomhorsley Active Member

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    I just had this happen one more time to me. It has been a while since the last time, but found it this afternoon again unable to tune anything except the one channel that happened to be live when it apparently stopped working. Power cycling the box made it all work OK again (after the 10 minute boot cycle).
     
  15. chrispitude

    chrispitude New Member

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    I've had both variants of this issue with my Premiere:

    1. Channels no longer authorized, restarts did not fix it. I needed a hit (sometimes several) from the cable company to get it going again. These are definitely cable company issues.

    2. Channels no longer authorized, but a restart makes them come back. This seems like a TiVo bug, not a cable company issue.

    For #2, on two occasions, we lost most of our channels over weekends where we were not home. None of our season passes recorded. We come home, I discover that we get almost no channels, they all come back after restart. Commence a great deal of cursing at days of season passes lost across all channels due to this software bug.
     
  16. tomhorsley

    tomhorsley Active Member

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    Yea, the last time this was happening almost once a week, I started working on a script to send commands to the tivo to get it to reboot via the telnet interface. I never got that finished, but I may have to dust it off. Then I could make a cron job to run the script every night at 3 am or something like that.
     
  17. Joey Bagadonuts

    Joey Bagadonuts New Member

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    I filed an FCC complaint in early Oct. when my local TWC office wouldn't give me self install CableCards. Over a month after I emailed my complaint in, I received a letter from the FCC simply confirming my emailed complaint had been received. F'ing joke!

    Am seriously thinking about eBaying all of my Tivo DVRs, dumping TWC and going with ATT U-Verse and their DVR's.
     
  18. tomhorsley

    tomhorsley Active Member

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    Now I'm thinking rebooting at 3AM wouldn't help anyway. I was just sitting there watching ESPN HD when the time came for it to record the next show (also on ESPN HD), and the screen froze, and a "not authorized" message showed up. At that point, changing channels got not authorized for all the other channels as well. Had to reboot once again (missing the first 10 minutes of the show I wanted to record).
     
  19. Joey Bagadonuts

    Joey Bagadonuts New Member

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    It's happening more and more frequently for me. And lately, after waiting for what, 8-10 minutes for TiVo to reboot (hey TiVo, 1982 called...they want their reboot time back!), when I select "Watch Live TV" from TiVo Central, I get a message reading words to the effect, "No channels have been found". I then have to go to settings then channels and wait while TiVo repopulates my channel listings. :mad:
     
  20. ThePhantomsGirl

    ThePhantomsGirl Member

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    I just got my new Premiere and got it all set up. Installed the cable card and called Comcast. The tech could not get it going, MOST channels brought up the screen with all the numbers and to call the cable company. They are rolling a truck today - and informed me I might have to pay for it - unless the cable card was defective. NOT happy. I know it's that they do not have it paired correctly...sigh.
     

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