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The Walking Dead S04E05: "Internment" 11.10.13

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Beryl, Nov 10, 2013.

  1. Nov 12, 2013 #61 of 119
    pmyers

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    Of course Rick exiled her. I really don't see how that can be in question.

    He even told Maggie "I told her she couldn't come back"...or something like that.
     
  2. Nov 12, 2013 #62 of 119
    Cearbhaill

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    Yes, clearly exiled.
     
  3. Nov 13, 2013 #63 of 119
    TAsunder

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    Didn't he directly state that he would now allow her to return? In any case, it was quite clear to me. Which means, of course, that we will continue to argue about it for several more pages.
     
  4. Nov 13, 2013 #64 of 119
    pmyers

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    LOL...too true!
     
  5. Nov 13, 2013 #65 of 119
    scandia101

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

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    No, he never changed his mind and told her she could return.
     
  6. Nov 13, 2013 #66 of 119
    pmyers

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    I'm pretty sure that was a typo and now=not
     
  7. Nov 13, 2013 #67 of 119
    Rob Helmerichs

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    But it's more fun to take it at face value.
     
  8. Nov 13, 2013 #68 of 119
    scandia101

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

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    Yes, yes it is.
    And with all of the varying thoughts on what happened, as wrong as most of you are ;), it's entirely possible that it was accurately typed.
     
  9. Nov 13, 2013 #69 of 119
    Bierboy

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    If I were taken at face value, my net worth would be subterranean....
     
  10. Nov 13, 2013 #70 of 119
    zalusky

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    They have killed off major players all the time. I would not be surprised if she is gone and we just don't see her again. Of course there is that spin off!
     
  11. Nov 13, 2013 #71 of 119
    DevdogAZ

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    Put me in the camp that says Carol was clearly exiled. She knew Rick's mind was made up and from previous experience with him, she knew no amount of talking or protesting would get him to change his mind, so she just accepted it. Doesn't mean she liked it or agreed with it.
     
  12. Nov 13, 2013 #72 of 119
    Bierboy

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  13. Nov 13, 2013 #73 of 119
    DreadPirateRob

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    I suppose I should clarify my earlier comment. I think Rick certainly intended to exile her, but lacked the authority to do so, especially given how hands-off he had been since ending the Ricktatorship, and if Carol really felt like he was wrong and she was right, she could have pushed the issue at least enough to get back to the prison and take it before the other members of the Council. The fact that she didn't - and only half-heartedly tried to change his mind - indicates to me that she thinks she deserves to be exiled.
     
  14. Nov 13, 2013 #74 of 119
    pmyers

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    That's the real crux of it and seems to be agreed to by Maggie and Herschel...we'll see about everybody else.


    I was actually thinking this was some type of mid-season break cliff hanger epiose. I was glad to see that there is a new episode this week.
     
  15. Nov 13, 2013 #75 of 119
    MacThor

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    Herschel actually seemed shaken up to me after Rick told him (off screen) about Carol.
     
  16. Nov 13, 2013 #76 of 119
    smbaker

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    Third episode of sick people not properly securing themselves from each other, while located in the perfect security environment, a prison. Of course, we all knew what was going to happen inside the prison... like a slow motion train wreck coming.

    Add me to the camp that thinks Carol was exiled. I don't really see it any other way. I don't necessarily thinks she believes she deserves to be exiled so much as she thinks it's best for the group that she be exiled. Her previous behavior shows that she puts survival of the group above her own welfare. I think she understood Rick's logic that she had to go and she would not be accepted back at the prison. In her mind, she took one for the team.
     
  17. Nov 13, 2013 #77 of 119
    john4200

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    Exile is a punishment that must be ordered and enforced. Rick neither ordered her exile, nor was he likely to enforce it if she tried to come back.

    Rick explained to her that she was basically an outcast. Even if she came back, she would be an outcast (if Tyreese did not kill her) after Rick told everyone what she did. She realized he was likely correct and decided not to come back.

    Rick did not order her exile. He talked her into not coming back because he thought that was the best thing for her, and she appeared to agree.
     
  18. Nov 13, 2013 #78 of 119
    Zevida

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    Carol was exiled by Rick. Just rewatched the scene and confirmed it. If you missed it, you aren't paying attention and/or cannot read body language and understand implied words.
     
  19. Nov 13, 2013 #79 of 119
    john4200

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    Rick did not exile Carol. Rick did not order Carol into exile, nor did he indicate that he would prevent Carol from coming back. If you think he did, you are not paying attention and/or you have an overactive imagination.

    Body language and implied words. :rolleyes: You seem to be confusing making someone feel unwelcome and unwanted with exiling them, which is a punishment that must be ordered and enforced.

    If Carol really wanted to come back, all she would have to do is come back. Then she could defend herself from Tyreese and get a hearing before the committee.
     
  20. Nov 13, 2013 #80 of 119
    Bryanmc

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    I'm starting to feel claustrophobic with this show. I need to see what's happening in the rest of the world.
     

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