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The Walking Dead S04E05: "Internment" 11.10.13

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Beryl, Nov 10, 2013.

  1. Nov 12, 2013 #41 of 119
    TAsunder

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    I thought Lizzy was the one feeding the walkers on the fence, but we never learned for sure.

    Her plan was to get it away from Glen so that it didn't kill him.
     
  2. Nov 12, 2013 #42 of 119
    betts4

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    That is exactly what I thought. Not a bad idea but it would have been better if she had a long metal spike to put thru the walkers head.

    Maggie was great this episode. Loved seeing her shoot out the glass.
     
  3. Nov 12, 2013 #43 of 119
    pmyers

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    Was there even anything mechanically keeping the cells shut once they were closed? Did it take a manual "lever" to open them?
     
  4. Nov 12, 2013 #44 of 119
    Langree

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    No, it looked like they were just closed, but not locked. I'm assuming the thinking is that the walkers don't open things. they push through, so as long as they don't wedge into the edge of the door it won't easily be opened.
     
  5. Nov 12, 2013 #45 of 119
    ihatecable

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    Adam Savage on Talking Dead addressed some of the fence issues "triangles are your friend",lol
     
  6. Nov 12, 2013 #46 of 119
    Anubys

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    He thought there would be a cure. He was never in the outside world and had no idea how bad things were (or the proof Rick had from the CDC). I don't think he made a bad assumption.
     
  7. Nov 12, 2013 #47 of 119
    Bierboy

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    I wondered the same...
     
  8. Nov 12, 2013 #48 of 119
    Zevida

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    Well, yes and no. She did want to get it away from Glenn, but she actually thought she was calling it and that he was coming because she was calling. She was surprised when he attacked her and told Herschel as much - she thought he was listening to her, not hunting her.
     
  9. Nov 12, 2013 #49 of 119
    pmyers

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    Yeah...she was also calling it by name. Where has this kid been?
     
  10. Nov 12, 2013 #50 of 119
    Langree

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    Hanging out with Hershel to much.
     
  11. Nov 12, 2013 #51 of 119
    TAsunder

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    Right. Her attitude towards the walkers is why I assumed (and kind of still do) that she was the one feeding them. However, I thought we have seen multiple episodes now where she has been proven wrong. Didn't she even reflect on this in a prior episode?
     
  12. Nov 12, 2013 #52 of 119
    zordude

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    There was no way she was going to kill the walker. She thinks walkers are still people.
     
  13. Nov 12, 2013 #53 of 119
    pmyers

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    If I was Rick....I'd make sure I was with the rest of the council when I told Daryl.
     
  14. Nov 12, 2013 #54 of 119
    danterner

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    "Daryl, I had no choice but to exile her. She was making unilateral decisions that affected the group. Wait, um, I mean..."
     
  15. Nov 12, 2013 #55 of 119
    john4200

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    Why do people keep saying that? Did I miss some scene where Rick told Carol he was exiling her?

    All I saw was Rick saying (or implying) that he would not keep Carol's murders a secret, that Tyreese might attack Carol, and that Rick would not trust Carol around his kids anymore. It seemed like the two of them agreed that it would be best for Carol not to come back. But if Carol had said, "I'm coming back", I did not see anything to lead me to believe that Rick would tell her "I won't allow it".
     
  16. Nov 12, 2013 #56 of 119
    Rob Helmerichs

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  17. Nov 12, 2013 #57 of 119
    Zevida

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    It was pretty clear to me too. Rick told her he can't trust her in the group and she'd better find another one. She did protest. He was firm.
     
  18. Nov 12, 2013 #58 of 119
    john4200

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    He was firm in telling her what he thought -- he thought that Tyreese would try to kill her, that the other people would not want her around, and if everybody else died and it was just the two of them (plus his kids, presumably), he would not have her there with his kids. That last was the only time he gave her any orders, and he prefaced that with saying if it were only the two of them.

    Carol was in denial that what she did was wrong. Rick had to talk harshly to try to get her to realize it. I'm not sure he succeeded completely, but between Rick's comment about not wanting her around his kids, and the other points he made, it seemed that Carol was persuaded that it would be best for her to not come back to the prison. Certainly Rick did not forbid her from coming back, let alone "exile" her.
     
  19. Nov 12, 2013 #59 of 119
    DreadPirateRob

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    She didn't *really* protest. She didn't say "I don't care if you don't like what I did - I'm coming back to the prison, and you can't stop me. We can take this up with the rest of the Council."

    No, maybe that was because she still sees Rick as the implicit leader of the group, despite the fact that she was on the Council and he wasn't. Or maybe it was because when looking at her actions through the eyes of another, she understood that she crossed a line. I think the latter is more likely.
     
  20. Nov 12, 2013 #60 of 119
    Zevida

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    Rick definitely exiled her.

    Carol definitely protested.

    Just because they did not spell out the words doesn't mean it didn't happen. They did a lot of it with body languages, looks, and implications.
     

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