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The Walking Dead - OAD 03/10/13

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by markz, Mar 11, 2013.

  1. betts4

    betts4 I am Spartacus!

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    If they stay at the prison I would be working on ways to avoid being overrun. There are so few of them and such a large prison that they could actually have 'caches' of food and supplies in a couple other areas that they could get to if needed - and seal off the area that was overrun. Put up some fencing or rearrange the fencing that is there. Glen showed us that there are welding tools. Make the prison more than just a prison. Make it a fort.
     
  2. Beryl

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    Brilliant. They also need boobie traps like Morgan built. Zombies are persistent but they are pretty dumb.
     
  3. danterner

    danterner Not it!

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    On my wish list would be something like a little C4 or dynamite with a remote detonator; not for its destructive ability but as a noisemaker. Set up a cache somewhere off-site. If you get over-run/surrounded/backed into a corner, you trigger the explosion and hopefully the zombies get drawn away from you as they're attracted to the sound.
     
  4. WhiskeyTango

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    And they were there for all of what, 10 minutes? Ok maybe not NO knowledge, but VERY little. It's not like they were drawing maps as Carl led them to the cell block.
     
  5. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

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    They lived there for a year...they were already there when Rick & Co. got there.

    And of course they lived there for years before the Zombie Outbreak, as prisoners.
     
  6. Test

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    I think they're talking about Tyrese and his gang. They stumbled upon the prison and snuck in the the back where the wall was destroyed.
     
  7. Beryl

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    Methinks you two are mixing up characters. Prisoners were there for a year. Tyreese and CO were only there for a couple of days (ten minutes).

    (Posted at the same time.)
     
  8. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

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    Oops, yes.

    (And the fact that the TV writers have made Tyrese an interchangeable character does NOT speak well of them...)
     
  9. Zevida

    Zevida witless and unarmed TCF Club

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    Plus, all the prisoners are now dead.
     
  10. Peter000

    Peter000 Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    We don't know what the writers have planned for Tyrese.
     
  11. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

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    Yes, and that's a waste (compared to the real Tyrese, who is and always has been anything but indistinguishable). On the TV show, "Third Token Black Guy" isn't any different from "Second Token Black Guy"; in the comic book he has always been a distinctive and interesting character.

    Then again, so has Michonne. This show has a growing history of taking interesting, fan-favorite black characters from the comic book and making them boring or laughable.
     
  12. Beryl

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    Couldn't agree with this post more and I blame the writers. It is like they are seriously rationing the lines so all they are allowed to do is use facial expressions. (Lennie James used up the quota a couple of weeks ago.)
     
  13. Peter000

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    They're both relatively new characters to the TV show, compared to everyone else (save the Woodbury folks).

    They just can't instantly build up their characters... they're still in development.

    And I think they've done an OK job with Michonne.

    But to me, this is a totally different thing from the comic books. Like an alternat universe of the comic. So I don't compare them. (And I think the comic book is written pretty badly... pretty wooden and ham-handed.)
     
  14. Dawghows

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    Agreed. "OK" is right. I don't think she is quite as interesting or as well-developed on the show as she is in the comics, but I think more than a failure of writing, that it's largely a function of the differences between the two mediums. The atmosphere in the comics, at least to me, is quite a bit more brooding and claustrophobic than the show, and Michonne's stoicism fits more seamlessly. On the show, where we get lots of wide-angle landscape shots and LOTS of sunshiny days, I think they've done what they can to make her like the character in the comics, but those traits read differently. She just comes off as stubborn, angry, and mostly silent. I also think they've done a little better job with her in the last two or three episodes.

    But that's just my opinion. I could be wrong. :)
     
  15. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

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    She also gets a lot more space in the comics, since there IS a lot more space in the comics. There's no fight to get everybody their screen time; Kirkman can take as much time as he likes (he divides his stories into six-issue arcs, and the breaks between issues are often arbitrary...hell, the breaks between arcs are often arbitrary). He just lets things unfold at their own pace.
     
  16. MacThor

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    Maybe the lousy treatment of his black characters is why Kirkman forced Mazzara off the show?
     
  17. Peter000

    Peter000 Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    With writing there IS NO "at their [the stories] own pace." It's Kirkman's pace period. For good or bad. He could make the TV show the Michonne vs Zombies show, if he wished.
     
  18. Rob Helmerichs

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    But with television writing there are all kinds of "requirements" that are completely beyond the story. And Kirkman can not make the show about anything he wants; he answers to a lot of other people.

    TV is not comic books. Kirkman has absolute control over the comics. There is a raft of people who have control over the TV show, and Kirkman (and any other writer) is relatively low on that totem pole. And most of the people who are above him know (and care) very little about writing.
     
  19. Philosofy

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    Remember the governor couldn't take the prison: he tried and failed. He was shocked when he heard Rick's group did it. If you can't take it when its defended by zombies, how can you take it when it has people with brains and guns?
     
  20. Peter000

    Peter000 Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    He's not trying to take the prison, he's trying to kill Rick and his group. Big difference.
     

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