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The Walking Dead 3.09.13 The Suicide King

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by betts4, Feb 11, 2013.

  1. fmowry

    fmowry Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2002
    Baltimore, MD
    If ever there was a black character that they SHOULD kill off.
  2. MonsterJoe

    MonsterJoe ♪♫♪♪♫♪♫♫♪

    Feb 19, 2003
    Central MA
    + all of this.

    and + all of this,too.
  3. Lee 2.0

    Lee 2.0 Hoopy frood

    Jul 10, 2012
    I mean I understand the pickin's are slim, but I'm pretty sure if I found out my boyfriend decorated with human heads and kept his zombie daughter chained in a closet I'd consider being single, you know, for a while.
  4. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

    Oct 17, 2000
    Michonne was better boyfriend material than the Guv! :D
  5. Bierboy

    Bierboy Seasoned gas passer

    Jun 12, 2004
    Quad Sillies
    ...'cept for the lack of boy parts....
  6. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

    Oct 17, 2000
    I think even considering that, in balance she was a lot better off with Michonne.
  7. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give em Hell, Devils

    Apr 16, 2003
    I don't think this one can be pinned on the writers. It's pretty unlikely that the script called for her to be lit so poorly you couldn't tell who it was. That's on the director of the episode.
  8. Vendikarr

    Vendikarr New Member

    Feb 24, 2004
    I can see the writer indicating she is in shadows, initially, and as Rick realizes who it is supposed to be, the lighting improves and she is revealed to the audience as Lori. But the director dropped the ball and just kept her in shadows.
  9. dbranco

    dbranco Member

    Nov 20, 2003
    Can someone please clarify this for me: WE know that Rick is going crazy, but do the characters (Herschel, Tyrese, etc) realize this?

    As I watched the scene, I thought that Rick was looking UP at the vision of Lori, yelling at HER rather than at Tyrese's clan. But when he yelled "Get out!" at 'Lori', it seemed as though the characters thought he was yelling at Tyrese's clan. So this makes me think that the characters don't yet realize he's going crazy. Does that make sense?
  10. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

    Oct 17, 2000
    I think they're clearly doubting his sanity.

    They just don't know how much room for doubt there really is. Let's face it, even without "Lori" his reactions in that scene were way, way over the top, and everybody was responding as such. It wasn't "You're the boss, Rick"; it was "Let's do what the crazy man says and deal with the situation later, so he doesn't kill everybody now."
  11. SnakeVargas

    SnakeVargas New Member

    Feb 8, 2013
    Savage Village
    Just watch this last night. Overall I was disappointed. The pace for the last two eps of last season was perfect with tension as Rick's group prepared to and then assaulted the Guv's compund. In the season opener we get a pointless battle between Dale and Merle. How did the Guv possibly think this would work out favorably? Then we get an attack by Rick and friends. Some decent action but it was the scene we all know kinda sorta had to happen and it happened the way it kinda sorta had to.

    Then it falls apart at the argument in the woods and nothing more of substance happens for the remainder of the episode. Much pointless discussion around the new group at the prison. Pointless dialog sessions with Beth and Carl and Carol that I should have fast forwarded through. The appearance of the ghost of Lori proves annoying characters can continue to annoy from beyond the grave. The return of Crazy Rick utterly spoils the end of the episode. If I was the new group I'd get the bleep away from these nutcases.

    Half of this episode should have been spent in preparation for the Guv's counterattack which we know has to be coming in an episode or two.

    Why is Michonne even in this show anymore? Her character literally and figuratively feel asleep for the bulk of the episode.

    The one redeeming character of the episode is the governor, who has a standout moment when the whole town is standing around wondering what to do about a bit resident and he calmly walks out and puts a bullet in the man's head. Metaphorically he put the episode out of its misery at the same time.

    Can somebody remind me what happened to the other convict? He must have died attacking the compound in the previous episode?
  12. rimler

    rimler New Member

    Jun 29, 2002
    I must have been watching a different show :)

  13. madscientist

    madscientist Deregistered Snoozer

    Nov 12, 2003
    Lexington, MA
    I believe that the Governor let them go on purpose, maybe his plan was to get Merle on the inside (Merle might have been in on it with him). The way the Governor was walking after them during the attack/escape, without really trying to stop them, made me think he had another plan.

    Anyway that's how it looked to me.

    Yes. Remember Rick was mad at Michonne for running off, and blamed her for losing members of his team.
  14. tlc

    tlc Member

    May 29, 2002
    This occurred to me. But then I realized that would have made the plan, "First you fight your brother for a while, then they shoot at us with automatic weapons, then..."
  15. madscientist

    madscientist Deregistered Snoozer

    Nov 12, 2003
    Lexington, MA
    This is true. But he could have had a different plan for them to escape. Plus, you know, it's TV :p.
  16. SnakeVargas

    SnakeVargas New Member

    Feb 8, 2013
    Savage Village
    Vaguely. I remember Michonne running off but I don't remember that being the cause of people being killed. I'll trust Rick that it happened that way...

    It does make sense for the governor to have an elaborate plan to sneak Merle into the inside of the prison. I don't believe the episode is consistent with that though. It seemed to me that Merle looked very much surprised when forced to fight his brother.

    Furthermore the odds of Merle ever being allowed inside after torturing Glenn and Maggie are close to nil.

    I'm curious how the Merle/Dale team will play out this season.
  17. wprager

    wprager Active Member

    Feb 19, 2006
    Ottawa, Canada
    Close to, but not quite nil :)

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