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The Walking Dead - 2/24/13 - "I ain't a Judas"

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by betts4, Feb 25, 2013.

  1. Zevida

    Zevida witless and unarmed TCF Club

    Nov 8, 2003
    San Jose, CA
    They had a commercial break near the end where they made it seem like it was the end of the show, but it wasn't, and there was another 4-5 minute segment after that. It's was a little odd.
  2. pmyers

    pmyers Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2001
    Gilbert, AZ
    Yeah...it was pretty obvious that the Gov was lying and Rick wasn't about what happened. Will be interesting how she justifies that to herself.
  3. Shaunnick

    Shaunnick Active Member

    Jul 1, 2005
    Knoxville, TN
    I think it is safe to say the writers are going to give Andrea the classic "but maybe I can fix him" syndrome. My wife's friend has this syndrome. Every broken man she is with, somehow she believes that for her he will change. In his whole lifetime of being a screwup, d-bag, what have you, for her he will make a difference. Before he poops on her life and moves on.
  4. pmyers

    pmyers Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2001
    Gilbert, AZ
    I do agree with the poster that said that the Gov took her back really quick and was testing her.
  5. madscientist

    madscientist Deregistered Snoozer

    Nov 12, 2003
    Lexington, MA
    Walking Dead is drifting into Lost "doesn't anyone tell anyone anything?" territory. I was willing to give Michonne a little slack since she doesn't talk AT ALL to ANYONE, plus she doesn't know the prison group at all.

    But geez, when Andrea shows up and they don't give her all the dirt they have on the Governor (Merle alone can surely tell stories: taking out the army guys in the first episode we were introduced to Woodbury has to be the least of it), and of course Maggie and Glenn's experience being captured.

    If they'd made it clear who he really was maybe she'd have gone through with the plan. Of course we would have hated that because we are waiting to see Rick (or Daryl or Merle) mano-y-mano with the Governor, and there's no way the show would forgo that goldmine for a wimpy "killed in his sleep" result. But still.
  6. Cainebj

    Cainebj Well-Known Member

    Nov 10, 2006
    New York
    I was disappointed.

    Mostly because I thought Andrea did not know about the kidnapping or how those two had been treated at Woodbury and that was why the Gov didn't want her to go to the prison.

    I was expecting her to be outraged.
    If she knows Glenn got beaten and tortured and whatsherface almost got raped she didn't seem to care very much.

    Learning that Michonne was hunted by the Governor after she left didn't seem to phase her much either.
  7. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

    Oct 17, 2000
    I think it runs deeper than that...I mean, it ran deeper than that on Lost, but it didn't permeate the show like this.

    The problem is they have certain things they want to happen. And they won't let anything get in the way. One way to stop things getting in the way is to withhold information from characters, but in this case (as you say) it's a lot worse. She knows enough about the Guv for any normal human being to run away screaming, and with every new revelation that she just shrugs off she becomes more repulsive. I guess we have to give the writers some credit...they're still withholding SOME information from her, apparently on the theory that it would be too much even for her. But short-sighted writing has become more and more of a problem on this show, to the point where it's really starting to interfere with my ability to enjoy it.
  8. madscientist

    madscientist Deregistered Snoozer

    Nov 12, 2003
    Lexington, MA
    This is exactly what I was referring to above. As best we can tell she DOESN'T know any of that: anyway we never saw anyone even suggest it to her. And that's just really bad writing. In what universe would they NOT tell Andrea every terrible thing?

    I think it was very realistic of her to want to go. But I think they should have found a way to keep her from getting there, because there's just no realistic way she could be told everything they would clearly tell her, and still want to go back.

    I guess they tried to fix it up by having everyone, including Andrea, think that she was going back to kill the Governor in his sleep, and then not have the ability to do it at the last minute.

    I was so sure that that's not how the governor would die that I was convinced we were about to see Andrea get killed when she walked over with the knife and that would be the shock for that episode. THAT would have been an epic ending, for sure, and completely redeemed Andrea.
  9. cheesesteak

    cheesesteak Meh. TCF Club

    Jul 24, 2003
    15 mins...
    Are they running out of food in the prison? I thought I heard somebody mention that at some point in the episode. I thought they had a ton of food in storage especially since the other prisoners are dead and crazy Rick ran off the newest group.
  10. jeepair

    jeepair Member

    Apr 21, 2004
    When they rescued the prisoners, there was very little food left in the prison kitchen. So yes, they are low on food.
  11. Vendikarr

    Vendikarr New Member

    Feb 24, 2004
    Yes but they divided what food was left in half between them and the convicts. But the convicts only lasted a day, except for Oscar and Axel. So most of their half should still be there.

    They shouldn't have gone through it too fast, unless they all binged on it.
  12. sharkster

    sharkster Well-Known Member

    Jul 3, 2004
    I think that leaving the walkers out there is a good thing. If somebody came along to challenge the prison dwellers (live peeps) they would have to start knocking off the walkers to get to them so, before that got too far, they would know that they were being threatened.

    I like that Michonne is having more lines.

    On the food supply thing - nobody there looks particularly bingey so I imagine they are pretty good at keeping control of it. Since they've been at the prison, in real time, I don't think it's been that long. Seems like they might be out of food for the baby, however, since that one food trip went bad.

    I absolutely HATE the (I call it - ) 'Three's Company syndrome' of people not telling others, who should know, what is going on. Of course, Andrea not knowing of the diabolical things that the Governator did to some of her friends is the prime example of that. Who does this, except people on shows who want to create false drama?? I feel like I'm watching Jack, What's her name, and Chrissy.

    Ok, that's my peeve. :D
  13. pmyers

    pmyers Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2001
    Gilbert, AZ
    I agree with the poster that Justified some of Andrea's actions because she truley wants to live in Woodberry, especially after seeing life at the prison. I think she has a great need for comfort compounded with a weakness for powerful men.
  14. Talon

    Talon Chally!

    Dec 5, 2001
    MD, USA
    Andrea is aware of more than enough of the governors actions to turn on him. She is too comfortable there in the town to give it up. It's why she attempted to bring the two sides together in the first place. Thats why Michonne made the comment she did about the warm bed. I don't think more details about the governor would make much of a difference to her.
  15. Bierboy

    Bierboy Seasoned gas passer

    Jun 12, 2004
    Quad Sillies
  16. Test

    Test Active Member

    Dec 8, 2004
    I'm looking for the gif of the interaction between Andrea and Michonne at the prison...

    Andrea: What have you told them?!
    Michonne: Nothin

    Truer words have never been spoken.
  17. Gerryex

    Gerryex Member

    Apr 24, 2004
    Land O...
    Yes, this really bothered me too! But overall this was a pretty good episode.

  18. Odds Bodkins

    Odds Bodkins Doug's Dad

    Jun 7, 2006
  19. Philosofy

    Philosofy Super Duper Member

    Feb 21, 2000
    My prediction: Michonne is in the trunk of the car, 'cause she knows Andrea won't go through with it.
  20. jradosh

    jradosh Newlywed

    Jul 31, 2001
    Did anyone actually say "I ain't a Judas"?

    I liked watching Andrea create her "pet" zombie. That's at least one skill she has. :)

    Seeing "Cutty's Crew" hook up with the Gov. bothered me a lot. I know that the two white guys will have no problem attacking the prison, but I'm not sure about the rest. The Gov sure played it cool with them though.

    I'm thinking the "scientist" guy is going to have an unfortunate (and deserving) end.

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