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The Tivo Mini lives....

Discussion in 'TiVo Mini' started by dave13077, Aug 21, 2012.

  1. Sep 6, 2012 #141 of 1620
    BigJimOutlaw

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    Yes and no. A 4-tuner Tivo is required for the initial setup until a later software update. But in the meantime, it can stream recorded shows from ANY Premiere on the network. At least, this is the information we had as of May.

    The point of the future software update (we don't know when it'll happen) is to make it work fully with 2-tuner Tivos and allow dynamic tuner controlling. With that update, if Live TV is not being watched on the Mini, the tuner will be free to use by the DVR.

    Additionally, the Mini reportedly will have some sort of standby mode and/or video output detection.
     
  2. Sep 7, 2012 #142 of 1620
    jcthorne

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    Yes, and the Primere will support a full HD user interface...just not a launch....

    DO NOT buy Tivo hardware for features not yet supported. They have a long history of never finishing features promised and sold.
     
  3. Sep 7, 2012 #143 of 1620
    slowbiscuit

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    Exactly. The hardware might be ready to ship, but Tivo's weak point has been the software for a few years now. You can't count on anything to work like it should or like it was promised.
     
  4. Sep 7, 2012 #144 of 1620
    compnurd

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    I will buy whatever I want, for whatever reasons I want :p
     
  5. Sep 7, 2012 #145 of 1620
    mattack

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    Â…and you may end up disappointed when the features you expect never show up.
     
  6. Sep 8, 2012 #146 of 1620
    jfh3

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    Based on a conversation I had with a TiVo sales rep a few days ago, I don't expect to see the Mini until sometime between Halloween and Thanksgiving.
     
  7. Sep 8, 2012 #147 of 1620
    sbiller

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    That is the first time I've heard of any date applied to the Mini from a CSR but its consistent with the "Fall Update" that @tivodesign has indicated on twitter.
     
  8. Sep 8, 2012 #148 of 1620
    Dan203

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    I think that because of the way the Mini controls a remote TiVo (allows scheduling of shows, etc...) it's probably going to require a software update on the TiVo itself to work. (unless they had a lot of foresight in the last release) If that's the case then the Mini probably wont come out until the Fall Update has been released and most boxes have been updated to it. They don't want a bunch of customers buying it and it not working because their Premiere units aren't running the right software.

    Dan
     
  9. Sep 8, 2012 #149 of 1620
    sbiller

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    Agreed. I'm almost certain the Mini requires new software on the Premiere.
     
  10. Sep 8, 2012 #150 of 1620
    compnurd

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  11. Sep 8, 2012 #151 of 1620
    ronaldheft

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    The software update makes sense. I could see new software landing on Premiere early October for testers with a general release late October. Then, the Mini coming out in November.
     
  12. Sep 8, 2012 #152 of 1620
    steve614

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    Let's just hope it doesn't turn out like the promise to get M-cards working on a Series 3.

    /TiVo : I know we said we were going to get the TiVo Mini working with Premiere DVRs, but unforseen circumstances are preventing us from doing so.
    :eek:
     
  13. Sep 8, 2012 #153 of 1620
    Dan203

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    That's not going to happen. The M-card on S3 issue was a last minute change to the spec which rendered the hardware incapable of supporting them.

    They've been developing the Mini for at least 6 months and knew the whole time they were targeting the Premiere platform. Plus something almost like the Mini already exists in the wild called the Preview. Only difference is the Mini wont have the built in tuner and CableCARD slot for live TV. Other then that they do the same thing so implementing it shouldn't be that hard. In fact now that I'm saying that maybe the Mini will work with the current software. I'm pretty sure the Preview and the Q combination use the same software we're using now.

    Dan
     
  14. Sep 8, 2012 #154 of 1620
    sbiller

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    We know from RCN chatter that quite a few updates to the Preview have been requested to improve the usability of the device. Its my understanding that the Preview can't manage the recordings on the Q so I think we are looking at a pretty significant "multi-room" upgrade for the series 4 platform. I know there was some discussion about letting the Preview pause live TV by allowing it to use the associated Q. I'm not sure whether or not this will be included in this release since it has a number of "mini-esque" ramifications (e.g., locking a tuner, etc.).
     
  15. Sep 8, 2012 #155 of 1620
    jfh3

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    We were talking about the Stream and how far in advance they usually got trained on new products. Since they hadn't been trained on the Mini yet (other than knowing what it was in concept), I just extrapolated.

    Realistically, it can't be much later than that and be available for the holiday season.
     
  16. Sep 8, 2012 #156 of 1620
    sbiller

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    I really need a couple of Mini's in my setup so it can't come soon enough!
     
  17. Sep 9, 2012 #157 of 1620
    jfh3

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    My wife reminds me that I don't NEED anything any more, I just WANT it.

    (I failed miserably this afternoon trying to explain why I "needed" to hook up my new TiVo Stream. At least I had the good sense to do the dishes before we had the conversation.)

    Not exactly sure what I will do with a Mini, but I will be one of the first in line to buy one - I have to do my part as a shareholder.
     
  18. Sep 9, 2012 #158 of 1620
    sbiller

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    LOL. I'm not married so I don't have that problem. I'm moving into my girlfriends FiOS household where she has 4 TVs so my two Premieres aren't going to cut it. I will probably shift to my one Elite/XL4 with 3 Minis and sell my lifetime Premiere to offset the cost of the Minis. It's also my duty as a shareholder!
     
  19. Sep 10, 2012 #159 of 1620
    swarto112

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    u'll love the moca setup, fios speed is crazy fast for these boxes. its just night and day
     
  20. Sep 10, 2012 #160 of 1620
    mikebaratta

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    Has anyone seen any information on what features (in addition to Tivo functionality) will be available on the Tivo Mini? Specifically Amazon, Netflix, Pandora, etc. I've only seen generic claims, but nothing specific.

    Thanks,
    Mike
     

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