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The Tivo Mini lives....

Discussion in 'TiVo Mini' started by dave13077, Aug 21, 2012.

  1. Aug 27, 2012 #101 of 1620
    GatorBlues

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    So WHEN will Tivo finally announce the release date and pricing (including whether it will have a monthly fee)? It seems like forever since this thing was first announced as coming this fall, and we still don't know those critical pieces of information.

    Personally, I have no interest if the mini has a monthly fee. My wife is never giving up her Charter DVR in the main room, so I'm looking at whether to drop my extra Charter DVRs in other rooms, which are rolled into the same Charter DVR Fee and thus cost me only extra outlet fees ($7 each) by buying a Tivo and a couple minis. I'm not shelling out for a TIVO 4 or whatever it's called now, plus lifetime, plus the Minis, plus a cable card fee, PLUS fees on each mini too. The Tivo solution would wind up costing nearly as much on a monthly basis on top of the big up front expense to buy the main box (with lifetime) and minis. In fact, without lifetime on the main box (which drives up the up front cost), the monthly Tivo costs would actually be higher than 3 extra Charter DVRs, especially if the minis have a monthly fee too.
     
  2. Aug 27, 2012 #102 of 1620
    jrtroo

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    Sorry to hear that. An unclimbable mountain called the WAF.


    @mr_smits - of course you disagree. That is why I posted here in the first place! :) We will just have to see what happens.
     
  3. Aug 27, 2012 #103 of 1620
    BigJimOutlaw

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    Tivo's quarterly earnings conference call is on Wednesday, so we may get some more info about the Mini then. Whether that includes price and date, I don't know. But anything is better than nothing.

    It looks like the Stream is coming first; their marketing is ramping up for that presently. It's likely we'll get specific details about that this week too.
     
  4. Aug 27, 2012 #104 of 1620
    Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I'm betting the Mini requires a software update to the TiVo itself*, which means it probably wont be released until after the fall software update.

    * The reason I say this is because based on what's been said it sounds like the Mini is more then just a streamer, it also has the ability to manage the remote TiVo. AFAIK that ability isn't in the current software which is why I think it's going to require an update.
     
  5. Aug 28, 2012 #105 of 1620
    jcthorne

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    Tivo has stated that the mini will REQUIRE a 4 tuner series 4 tivo. This precludes OTA. Simple as that. 4 tuner series 4 Tivos do not support OTA so therefore the mini will not either.
     
  6. Aug 28, 2012 #106 of 1620
    buscuitboy

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    I have two (2 tuner) Premieres connected to HDTVs on our main floor. I then have a finished basement with 2 bedrooms and a large rec area. These basically have just Comcast digital adapters that don't get the full digital lineup compared to upstairs.

    For one of these basement rooms, I was looking into possibly getting an older Series 3 and then trying to lifetime it after a few months for $99 (that I have seen others here do). However, depending on the cost, this "mini" box might be a much better solution.

    I figured out that buying & lifetiming an older S3 box after 6 months will still cost me close to $300. Not to mention that there will STILL be an ongoing Comcast cable card charge for me of $8/month. And there will be some additional nice features missing from the S3 box that my Premieres have.

    Having a mini would be great for my needs as the basement TVs are not frequently used. Mainly for occasional guests for weekends and holidays. Therefore, allowing it to borrow a tuner from one of the main floor Premieres would work sufficiently. Ideally, it would be great to see a mini automatically be able to sense whether the TV is on or not & then get the tuner as needed based on this, but I'm not holding my breathe on that feature being available. If anything & until the software allows this, I could simply plug & unplug the mini in the basement as needed. This way in theory, the tuner would then be released back to the main TiVo Premiere.

    Also, I would avoid the $8/month cable card fee that Comcast would charge me. I would maybe even be willing to pay the same monthly price for a mini that Comcast charges if I put another DTA down there ($2/month). I would not only get more digital channels via the mini, but the ability to have HD quality if desired, Netflix, Hulu, & recorded content. Seems like a win-win for my situation.

    Hell, I might even be willing to upgrade one of my monthly Premieres to one of the newer Premiere 4s ($250) I see in order to also get this "whole home" solution. I guess now all is needed is for the damn thing to come out & how much will it be? :)
     
  7. Aug 28, 2012 #107 of 1620
    GatorBlues

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    Unclimbable is an understatement, and DVR choices are just the tip of the iceburg! She does love having On Demand through Charter, which is why she insists on having its DVR.
     
  8. Aug 28, 2012 #108 of 1620
    slowbiscuit

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    And Kevin posted megazone's info from Tivo which says that it can stream from any S4.

    As I said, we will have to wait and see what it actually does. Knowing Tivo, you're probably right and it will only work with a 4-tuner box.
     
  9. Aug 28, 2012 #109 of 1620
    Jonathan_S

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    Exactly, and since I don't care about LiveTV I'm provisionally interested (depending on cost) in getting a Mini and configuring it for 0 tuners (MRS only) so I can view recorded shows from my Elite on my other TV.
     
  10. Aug 29, 2012 #110 of 1620
    jcthorne

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    Megazone and Tivo have both stated that the mini will require a 4 tuner tivo for setup. Even if you dedicate ZERO tuners. An OTA household will not have a 4 tuner tivo for setup, regardless of what it could stream after being setup.

    Hopefully tivo will eventually fix the situation and allow the mini to support OTA households.
     
  11. Aug 29, 2012 #111 of 1620
    buscuitboy

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    I would LOVE to be able to dump ALL my Comcrap cable equipment. I'm hoping these "minis" will make it one step closer. Due to cable card shenanigans that Comcast has pulled with me, I also dumped my one and only Comcast digital box so I don't get any true OnDemand material from them (but actually don't terribly miss it either).

    I know getting Comcast OnDemand material on Premieres is in the works for all Comcast customers (Boston and San Fran right now), but when it becomes available in my area (Atlanta), I am hoping maybe these minis might allow access to it as well. I know, wishful thinking, but one can dream can't they? :)
     
  12. Sep 1, 2012 #112 of 1620
    yukit

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    I know this will not likely to happen, but I wish Tivo would just license the Mini feature to Roku/Apple/Google/etc (even Boxee) so I can avoid having another dedicated box.

    Maybe Stream would do almost everything I want (except for Airplay) though I don't need another tuner.

    If Mini does work as expected, I would get rid of my TivoHDs one at a time. I wonder if their price would take that into account, but many of us on this forum are non-typical Tivo users with multiple boxes...
     
  13. Sep 2, 2012 #113 of 1620
    sbiller

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    I will go out on a limb and say that I fully expect this to happen. TiVo wants to control the user experience. They don't care about the hardware. The question in my mind is whether or not this will come to retail? I think it will but it still is unknown at this point. I will point you to TiVo's August 29th conference call to substantiate my prediction.

    I can also direct you to the Jason Wong interview where he gives some good insight as well --> http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=482103
     
  14. Sep 3, 2012 #114 of 1620
    gopheritall

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    If this is what it sounds like I am very interested. I would be in the market for a 4-tuner+lifetime+3 (or 4) minis. Of course, so far TiVo's repeated delivery below expectations has me doubting. If I can move everything in my house off of Comcast boxes for under 2 grand this Christmas, I probably will.
     
  15. Sep 3, 2012 #115 of 1620
    sbiller

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  16. Sep 4, 2012 #116 of 1620
    aaronwt

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    I hope it's much sooner.
    RCN software versions have been behind the retail software, so maybe the mini will be as well. And will show up in the retail channel before RCN offers it.
     
  17. Sep 4, 2012 #117 of 1620
    zubinh

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    I cant understand why Tivo wont at the very least warn consumers that the 2 tuner Tivo's wont support the upcoming Tivo Mini. Doing so would increase sales of 4 Tuner Tivos and prevent consumer backlash for those just purchasing 2 tuner Tivos now and buying mini later
     
  18. Sep 4, 2012 #118 of 1620
    compnurd

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    Because the 2 Tuner will support the Mini. Both as a Streaming device and it will allow it to Lock a tuner... Just not at launch
     
  19. Sep 4, 2012 #119 of 1620
    atmuscarella

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    The only reason we know anything is because TiVo told us.

    New Stuff doesn't always support old stuff - just the way the tech world works, also it may support the Premiere at some point, I seem to remember something about that being said at some point - but my memory is a little fuzzy.
     
  20. Sep 4, 2012 #120 of 1620
    compnurd

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    It was discussed and confirmed with the Mini was first announced several months back in a thread in the Coffee House Forum. I cant find that thread now. it was confirmed that the Mini would support the Regular Premiere from a Streaming perspective. It would also support the tuner locking just not at original release. a software update would be released to support that
     

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