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The Tivo Mini lives....

Discussion in 'TiVo Mini' started by dave13077, Aug 21, 2012.

  1. Aug 22, 2012 #41 of 1620
    compnurd

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    Yes it is
     
  2. Aug 23, 2012 #42 of 1620
    crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    +1
     
  3. Aug 23, 2012 #43 of 1620
    aaronwt

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    All of those products have TiVo in front of them. Including the IP STB, the TiVo Mini. So while people might not know the specific model, they will know that it is a TiVo.
     
  4. Aug 23, 2012 #44 of 1620
    aadam101

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    But most of these products are not Tivo's. They are accessories that are useless on their own.
     
  5. Aug 24, 2012 #45 of 1620
    jcthorne

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    I really want a couple of the Tivo Minis but they will have to support a Tivo that has OTA tuners first. Without OTA to connect to, the mini is useless. So Tivo needs to either get the mini connected to the Premiere, or relase a new 4 tuner box that has OTA tuners.
     
  6. Aug 24, 2012 #46 of 1620
    aaronwt

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    They already said at launch it would only be able to be used with an XL4/Elite. With plans to use it with the two tuner Premieres later. Once they are able to update the software. Unless things have changed and they have that feature working at launch.(unlikely but you never know)
     
  7. Aug 24, 2012 #47 of 1620
    alex_h

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    If it had an integrated OTA tuner and enough RAM/Flash RAM to rewind/pause a few minutes, that's be a great thing to differentiate it from Roku/AppleTV. I have a TV by the bar that is only really used for Sports watching, currently live. If you give me a cheap device to stream from my other Tivos, I'd add it. If you let me watch my OTA without switching inputs/UIs, I'd do that as well. But if adding a tuner means adding CableCard and whatever other nonsense, forget it, just let me stream from my Tivos, Hulu, Netflix, etc., and make the price reasonable, and I'll buy one.

    Live TV is for sports in my house, and I guess news before we ditched DTV/cable. Streaming pre-recorded stuff there and streaming stuff is great. It'd be nice to use the OTA without switching interfaces, but not really a big deal.
     
  8. Aug 24, 2012 #48 of 1620
    aaronwt

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    It doesn't matter what it is for me. Sports or news. I'm still going to time shift it. Otherwise you waste so much time because of the commercials if you watch live.

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  9. Aug 24, 2012 #49 of 1620
    jrtroo

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    +1.

    I cannot stand to watch NFL live. Better to go for a run/bike ride (or anything without radio/tv/internet) and then watch all 6 minutes of action in around 30-40 minutes. I could watch 3 games or more in the same span as one live, without missing a play while getting a beer or snack.
     
  10. Aug 24, 2012 #50 of 1620
    alex_h

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    Depends, when I used to watch the NFL with Sunday Ticket, I loved the Monday night recaps where you could watch a game in 30 minutes. We DVR'd 15 hours of Olympic coverage a day and watched in 2-4 hours/night, depending on events we wanted. I get how fast it is to watch that way.

    That said, I have a huge Super Bowl Party every year. When there is a big game on, I'll have friends over to watch. If I want to catch the game because I was out with my kids during it, sure, I can "watch" the game in 30 minutes. But that's a completely different experience than watching a game unfold in real time.
     
  11. Aug 24, 2012 #51 of 1620
    mr_smits

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    Here's some confusion:

    Tivos can stream to other Tivos that are networked.
    Tivo Stream will stream to mobile devices and tablets but not to other Tivos.
    Tivo Mini will stream from other Tivos to the Mini but not to or from the Stream (I think).
    Tivo Mini will be able to stream *only* with an XL4.

    That alone is a huge mess of confusion. Tivo is supposed to keep it simple and make tv easy again. They need to keep trying!
     
  12. Aug 24, 2012 #52 of 1620
    compnurd

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    Item 4 there is not entirely true... It was confirmed that the Mini will be able to stream from a regular premiere, just not at release
     
  13. Aug 24, 2012 #53 of 1620
    sbiller

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    I think you are making this way to complicated.

    The TiVo Mini is a TiVo extender for additional TVs in the home.

    The TiVo Stream allows a local iOS device to receive live or recorded video from any TiVo on the home network.
     
  14. Aug 24, 2012 #54 of 1620
    crxssi

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    Change item 2 to be "only APPLE mobile devices, except not laptops/notebooks", at least for now.
     
  15. Aug 24, 2012 #55 of 1620
    moyekj

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    I think that's not entirely accurate either. It WILL be able to stream shows from all series 4 TiVos in your house, but for 1st go around you need a 4 tuner unit as an available host on your network to get past guided setup.
     
  16. Aug 24, 2012 #56 of 1620
    crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    All I can say/warn is:

    Buy it for what it claims to do now, not for claims of what it MIGHT do later

    Which is good advice when it comes to TiVo stuff. They have a hard enough time making products fill the "now" claims.
     
  17. Aug 24, 2012 #57 of 1620
    compnurd

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    Correct but it WAS confirmed it will be able to lock a tuner for a regular premiere after updated software
     
  18. Aug 24, 2012 #58 of 1620
    L David Matheny

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    Also the Super Bowl is one of the few times when I make it a point to actually watch commercials.
     
  19. Aug 24, 2012 #59 of 1620
    jrtroo

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    This is good advice for anything.
     
  20. Aug 24, 2012 #60 of 1620
    Dan203

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    This is unnecessary. The TiVo Stream is simply an accessory that recodes video from the native MPEG-2 format to the H.264. The only reason it even exists is because mobile devices don't come with chips capable of decoding MPEG-2 natively so they have to recode to H.264 for it to be possible to watch video on an iPad/iPhone/etc...

    The TiVo Mini doesn't need to stream from the TiVo Stream because it will be capable of decoding the MPEG-2 stream directly, thus no need for the middle man. Same applies to PCs. PCs have enough horsepower that they could stream directly from a TiVo without the TiVo Stream recoding. (although this would require an upgrade to TiVo Desktop as it currently only allows transfers not streaming)

    Dan
     

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