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The Tivo Mini lives....

Discussion in 'TiVo Mini' started by dave13077, Aug 21, 2012.

  1. Jan 8, 2013 #461 of 1620
    jcthorne

    jcthorne Active Member

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    Tivo has a very good whole home solution, many just do not like the pricing. Our home currelty has 5 displays connected to 3 Tivos. I can watch any content in any room and schedule recordings from any room. Also can watch any video or listen to any music on our network from any tv in the house. Also every tv uses the same style remote and has the same user interface.

    Sounds like a whole home solution to me.

    The mini will just make more options for building a whole home solution cheaper but with less capability. Adding a premiere for a second screen currently costs about $450. Adding a mini will cost in the range of $200 (WAG) but will not have a local tuner or recording capablity. The mini will also not support households using OTA broadcast tv.
     
  2. Jan 8, 2013 #462 of 1620
    jadziedzic

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    The cost comparison is not that simple in some markets. Many of us in Comcast land have to pony up an additional $8 or so per month for the "additional digital outlet" fee associated with each CableCARD device, so the combination of a 4-tuner "base unit" plus mini(s) is less expensive. I'd much rather pay $200 ONCE for the TV in the exercise room than $450 PLUS $8 per month ad infinitum.
     
  3. Jan 8, 2013 #463 of 1620
    TWinbrook46636

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    Comcast just raised it to $10 a month in my area so I'm definitely in the market for a couple TiVo minis!
     
  4. Jan 8, 2013 #464 of 1620
    jmpage2

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    You have a different definition of a whole home solution than I do. For what you have to be a "whole home" solution in my eyes, you would at a minimum need integrated schedule management between all of those different tuners.

    I think TiVo clearly understands that users like yourself who will buy many TiVos and manually manage recordings among all of them are in the slim minority.... but they DO have many users who would like to access the content from a central TiVo in other rooms of the house... hence the TiVo Mini.
     
  5. Jan 8, 2013 #465 of 1620
    davezatz

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    No TiVo Mini on display last night at Digital Experience. I assume they'll talk it about on the CES Show Floor, but I'm guessing no major announcement at this point. Bummer.
     
  6. Jan 8, 2013 #466 of 1620
    moedaman

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    You could always connect the 2-tuner Tivo to ota and stream between it and a 4-tuner cable only Tivo. Use Tivo Desktop (or your prefered 3rd party software) on an older dual-core cpu pc, connect to a third set and there's a whole home solution for you. Sure it's pricier, but at least you'll have 6-tuners to play with and still only pay for one outlet.
     
  7. Jan 8, 2013 #467 of 1620
    KevinG

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    I can honestly say that DirecTV has my full attention right now. I'm currently a Comcast subscriber with two lifetime Series 3s. I also have one comcast DVR. We pay over $150 month for triple play (phone/cable/internet) with no "pay" channels.

    With cable-card fees going up, and our desire to have TVs in some more rooms (kids are old enough now to have their own), we're looking at a big expense to replace our Series 3s with a premier 4, and a bunch of (mythical?) tivo minis...

    We could cover the entire house with a DirecTV subscription, and break about even (keeping phone and internet with comcast) monthly. Surely, we'd have to re-think things when the 2 year agreement is up, because the fees skyrocket...but technology changes fast enough that that isn't much of a concern.

    So, we'd be leaving Tivo (very sadly, since I've been a customer since the series 1), and leaving Comcast (gladly) at least for TV services.
     
  8. Jan 8, 2013 #468 of 1620
    mr_smits

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    Many people are waiting for the Tivo Minis to arrive. Just today I read that Verizon FIOS is releasing a whole-house media server with 6 tuners that can use set tops or xboxes or tablets or other devices for viewing content.

    Not to beat a dead horse, but it would be great if Tivo could find a distinguishing feature to draw new customers in and keep them as customers. Instead, they are playing catch-up to everyone else in the market.
     
  9. Jan 8, 2013 #469 of 1620
    innocentfreak

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    Does Comcast charge the same additional fee per cable box? If not have you tried filing a comment to the FCC, especially since Comcast reports the CableCARD fee as just the fee for the CableCARD without the digital outlet fee.
     
  10. Jan 8, 2013 #470 of 1620
    slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    You already know this, I think - Comcast charges their bogus $10 outlet fee per box or card, then we get a measly $2.50 credit or so for using a card (so $10 each box vs. $7.50 a card). They're trying to say that renting an STB only costs $2.50 a month in other words, and the rest is just made-up profit.

    Yes, some of us here have filed complaints with the FCC about this. Yes, this is why some of us here want to use Minis, or an HTPC with extenders, or anything to reduce the card count.
     
  11. Jan 8, 2013 #471 of 1620
    TWinbrook46636

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    Please keep us updated in any event. All I could find was a press release from TiVo Research & Analytics breaking down how people fast-forward through commercials. That and everyone's favorite TiVo ambassador Tim Tebow is at CES hawking a line of headphones for some other company.
     
  12. Jan 8, 2013 #472 of 1620
    kpepling

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    mr_smits

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    aaronwt

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    Why won't it support households with OTA? If it can be used with a two tuner Premiere, then wouldn't it have access to anything it records.
     
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    aaronwt

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    BigJimOutlaw

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    No, it had no name last time. Now it is officially branded as the Tivo Mini on the box. :D:p
     
  17. Jan 8, 2013 #477 of 1620
    Aero 1

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    did we know this as a fact already? is this support article new? or was this support article before they mentioned that they will look at dynamic tunning? http://support.tivo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2395#instructions

    if this is new and they are confirming that a 4 tuner model is needed, im out.
     
  18. Jan 8, 2013 #478 of 1620
    hungarianhc

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    Someone in the Engadget comments linked to the following: http://support.tivo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2395

    This is a bummer. Turns out that you need a 4-tuner box to set it all up. That's pretty annoying. I bought my parents a TiVo Premiere w/ Lifetime service last xmas in hopes that they could add some minis to their house, once the minis were released.
     
  19. Jan 8, 2013 #479 of 1620
    Aero 1

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    engadget updated:

     
  20. Jan 8, 2013 #480 of 1620
    BigJimOutlaw

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    It's been known that it was a 4-tuner Tivo accessory. It was only the community's hope that it would support 2-tuner boxes equally from the start.

    Edit: But as we now know, full 2-tuner support is still on the roadmap.

    As a 4-tuner Tivo accessory, by default it doesn't fully support OTA since 4-tuner boxes don't have OTA. However, if someone has a 4-tuner box AND a 2-tuner box, then the Mini can stream recorded content from the 2-tuner box too as a standard MRS client. But a 4-tuner host box is necessary for setup.

    As Aero just pointed out, the Engadet article was updated. Full 2-tuner support is still on the roadmap (when dynamic tuner allocation is implemented.)

    Spring release.
     

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