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The Tivo Mini lives....

Discussion in 'TiVo Mini' started by dave13077, Aug 21, 2012.

  1. Nov 2, 2012 #301 of 1620
    sbiller

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    Agreed. This statement confirms what I've been hearing from multiple sources that the Mini is being released to cable operators first.
     
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    aaronwt

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    Yes I have the Vulkano app that you can use with the HavaHD. Using the app on my cell phone and FireHD there is no comparison. The SlingBox picture quality blows away the picture quality of the Vulkano app whether on the LAN or viewing remotely.
     
  3. Nov 2, 2012 #303 of 1620
    jcthorne

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    I'd have done that a long time ago if the 4 tuner versions were not all strapped to comcrap for service.

    Until they get a 4 tuner OTA capable premiere or the mini working with 2 tuner boxes, the whole concept is for CATV only. They might as well have just sold it to the MSOs rather than retail.
     
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    jcthorne

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    Yep, I had figured that was coming. 2012 was running out of time and there were just too many 'issues' with the mini for a retail launch for the holidays.

    Someday.....
     
  6. Nov 2, 2012 #306 of 1620
    aaronwt

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    That would have sucked. I certainly have no desire to have to rent the DVR boxes from my cable company indefinitely and never be able to own them.
     
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    aaronwt

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    buscuitboy

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    Yea, and the cable Company DVR boxes I have used ALL suck big time compared to TiVo.

    Yea, this is REALLY discouraging that the mini has been pushed back to 2013. I was REALLY hoping it would be released this year sometime. I'm now starting to think the 2013 holiday season is a much more realistic target date at this point.
     
  9. Nov 2, 2012 #309 of 1620
    moyekj

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    I'd rather they delay the release and have a product that works well at launch for a change, contrary to recent history. This business of releasing something half baked and then trying to fix it gradually afterwards is getting old.
     
  10. Nov 2, 2012 #310 of 1620
    mr_smits

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    I agree - I prefer a Mini that works well out of the gate. The original release of the Premiere is still in my mind even though I wasn't a bleeding edge adopter (I think I bought it several months after it was released) it didn't feel finished because it wasn't ready.

    I'm a bit anxious for the Mini release so I can decide whether it is worth it to keep my existing setup (two 2-tuner premieres and an HD box) or sell them all, buy a 4 tuner box and 2 minis. Depending on pricing, I'm still considering a 3rd option: waiting until the next model of the Premiere is released that hopefully has 6 tuners, built-in Streaming built in (with Android support :D), and then buy 2 Minis for the other outlets.
     
  11. Nov 2, 2012 #311 of 1620
    Kingpcgeek

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    I posted this over in The Stream forum, but it could apply here.

    Took a survey from TiVo today with regards to the Stream. Some of the questions asked were would I be interested in watching Stream shows on other devices such as Roku, Apple TV, PC's and game consoles.

    If I could stream content from my TiVo to a Roku via The Stream that would eliminate in my case the need for a Mini. I don't care about live TV, only recorded TV.
     
  12. Nov 2, 2012 #312 of 1620
    mr_smits

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    Roku serves as an alternate endpoint to the Tivo Mini for output to a TV? That sounds ... confusing. I guess it would be an app. I'm not a fan of all these separate boxes, so buying a Roku (despite it's great Netflix app) to use to Stream is not something I would do. It is unlikely I will even buy a Stream unless it is integrated into a Tivo. I don't want another box to plug in and maintain. I want Tivo to make it simple for me.

    It would be great to Stream to PCs though.
     
  13. Nov 2, 2012 #313 of 1620
    atmuscarella

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    The main purpose of the "Steam" was to re-code the video (in real time so steaming works) into a format that ios devices could play. The current Premiere does not have enough horse power to do that.

    If a Roku can play the native format of the video on the Premiere (MPEG 2 or 4) then there should be no need for any device between your Premiere and the Roku as no recoding is needed.
     
  14. Nov 2, 2012 #314 of 1620
    gonzotek

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    No MPEG2 on Rokus :( (we've been bugging them about it for years...the chips they use should be capable of mpeg2 decoding, but that feature isn't enabled in their software, probably to save on licensing fees).
     
  15. Nov 4, 2012 #315 of 1620
    MichaelK

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    and why do you think a delay means they will do it right? ;)
     
  16. Nov 4, 2012 #316 of 1620
    TZR916

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    MINI QUESTIONS:
    Does anyone know what inputs/outputs the mini will have?
    Does it have LAN (wired and/or wireless)?
    Does it have coax for MOCA?
    Does my Elite have MOCA?
    Is picture quality on the mini end dependent on type of connection to Elite- MOCA vs Ethernet vs Wifi?
     
  17. Nov 4, 2012 #317 of 1620
    moyekj

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    See a picture of the back plus description here:
    http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/22/tivo-stream-and-ip-stb-coming-to-msos-and-retail-this-year/
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    * coax - for MoCA
    * component + composite A/V breakout ports
    * HDMI
    * USB - presumably for Slide remote or I/R extender
    * Ethernet

    WiFi is not built in and is highly discouraged and won't be supported by TiVo.

    Since the box is essentially using MRS for video you won't get any picture degradation since it streams the original recording as is (no transcoding video on the fly).
     
  18. Nov 4, 2012 #318 of 1620
    BigJimOutlaw

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    1. Component and AV are supported through dongles (presumably included), and HDMI. There is also a USB port.
    2. Ethernet and MoCA. Wireless will not be officially supported.
    3. Mini MoCA support: yes, built-in.
    4: Yes, all 4-tuner Tivos have MoCA.
    5: Tivo's video streams are bit-for-bit transfers. So the quality is dependent only on the quality of the recording and the robustness of your network. Since they "require" a wired connection, any such transfer will be more than fast enough.
     
  19. Nov 5, 2012 #319 of 1620
    buscuitboy

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    I figured wireless would not be "officially" supported, but I have a wireless ethernet bridge adapter connected to my Series 3 (OLED) & it works rather good for transferring titles from my Premieres as well as streaming Netflix.

    Its a 54G wireless bridge adapter and basically plugs into the Series 3's ethernet port. Its only about 20ft from a wireless access point so its a pretty solid connection. While probably not encouraged, I would assume this could be done with the minis too. Would it work OK to stream live HD from a Premier? How much bandwidth is usually required to stream HD content via wireless.
     
  20. Nov 5, 2012 #320 of 1620
    aaronwt

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    Get a wireless N bridge and you would probably be fine. With my wireless N bridges, I will get identical speeds between Premieres as when using the wired portion of my network.(75Mb/s to 85Mb/s transfer rates between Premieres)

    Otherwise wireless G is extremely slow. It works with the Series 3 OK because those boxes have slow transfer rates.
     

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