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The Tivo Mini lives....

Discussion in 'TiVo Mini' started by dave13077, Aug 21, 2012.

  1. Sep 21, 2012 #181 of 1620
    jjd_87

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    Any more news on this? I'm about to move into a new place and would love to have one for my bedroom tv.
     
  2. Sep 21, 2012 #182 of 1620
    Dan203

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    Suppose to be released this "fall". That could mean any time between now and Christmas. And that's just an estimate so they could push it further if it's not ready. (TiVo has been known to miss target dates in the past)

    Dan
     
  3. Sep 21, 2012 #183 of 1620
    sbiller

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    It's probably very much like the Stream. The hardware is ready for release. The quality of the software is the big unknown when they decide to launch. I expect we will see it well before Black Friday.
     
  4. Sep 21, 2012 #184 of 1620
    compnurd

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    I agree with that. I think we will see a update with the software here which is the reason we havent seen it yet
     
  5. Sep 21, 2012 #185 of 1620
    innocentfreak

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    It might also be an issue where it needs the next update for it to work as advertised so they might be waiting for the software update to rollout.

    It would make some sense since we know the next update adds the HD screen for remote My Shows which the Stream would use primarily.
     
  6. Sep 21, 2012 #186 of 1620
    compnurd

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    I am just praying for a Unified playlist between the boxes
     
  7. Sep 21, 2012 #187 of 1620
    innocentfreak

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    My magic 8 ball says no.

    Unfortunately I don't see that happening any time soon if ever. While there are potential issues like how you handle duplicates, I also get the impression it would take some major changes to how TiVo works.

    As far as duplicates there are multiple ways that could be addressed such as assigning a number or letter to each TiVo and having that alphanumeric character show up in the status circle. The issue is it needs to be clear and consistent. Of course some of this could also be handled by user profiles.

    Don't get me wrong, I would love to see it also, but I don't think this was ever planned so it seems like it would be tough to implement after the fact.
     
  8. Sep 21, 2012 #188 of 1620
    compnurd

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    I would not think it would be that hard... Direct TV has had it for almost 4 years now on there ****ty software. Duplicates were just listed twice. Would just be so much easier... even more so with the mini, to just hit my shows and see your shows folders across all DVR's.. Instead of having to go into each box to find a show I have tweeted Margret several times about it with no response. Normally she responds with a she will pass it along so i am hoping the silence means it may be coming
     
  9. Sep 21, 2012 #189 of 1620
    innocentfreak

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    DirecTV may have planned it in advance so it was slowly built into the product. Also DirecTV had streaming a lot earlier long before they had anything with more than two tuners. As a result it was a goal for them to incorporate it this way. Also for all we know it was a ReplayTV patent and as a result TiVo would have to find a way around it or license it.
     
  10. Sep 21, 2012 #190 of 1620
    jrtroo

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    Easy to say, hard to do.

    I think we should not expect an integrated list as Tivo seems to be moving towards a primary unit with more tuners and interconnected clients. That reduces the need for that kind of complex programming, becoming throw-away code.
     
  11. Sep 21, 2012 #191 of 1620
    compnurd

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    True... But unless the software changes that would still suck. That would mean if you have a Mini, and you open My Shows it will only show you the name of the DVR, which you then have to open to stream a show. That or the Mini has different software and your shows populate on the mini.. Which would still mean a unified playlist could work
     
  12. Sep 21, 2012 #192 of 1620
    innocentfreak

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    This might be why they require a XL4/Elite to be paired right now. As a result you by default see the My Shows from the XL4/Elite and live TV. Then you browse down to the other TiVos.
     
  13. Sep 21, 2012 #193 of 1620
    compnurd

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    good call
     
  14. Sep 21, 2012 #194 of 1620
    tivogurl

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    SSL has been available a Real Long Time Now. What's the point of MOCA?

    I find this paranoia about content copying abysmally stupid. I can already copy everything that's on the disk. Even if that wasn't already encrypted, what sort of pinhead thinks you have to transfer video in cleartext over the wire?

    The same goes for, say, the no-copy flag. Why the heck do you care which TiVo has the copy, so long as it's the only copy? The original TiVo that recorded it is in no way special, so why prevent transfers of no-copy flagged shows? It massively screws up provisioning new TiVos, and along with the bizarre refusal of TiVo to write software that autoconfigures a new TiVo from an old one makes the decision to upgrade (and send TiVo much needed revenue) much harder.
     
  15. Sep 21, 2012 #195 of 1620
    lessd

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    I think this copy stuff is about letting TiVo use cable cards (and not getting the MSO angry ), I don't think TiVo would care about coping if the decision was only up to TiVo.
     
  16. Sep 21, 2012 #196 of 1620
    Xab

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    What do you mean by a unified playlist? As in, see the same shows on both boxes? I don't see why it would work any other way.
     
  17. Sep 22, 2012 #197 of 1620
    tivogurl

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    Yeah, but the cablecos aren't rational about it. You can stream a no-copy show, but not do a copy to B/delete from A for it. They worry about wire interception when sending video over the wire exposes nothing that isn't exposed in a fraction of the effort by pulling the drive. I could go on.
     
  18. Sep 22, 2012 #198 of 1620
    vurbano

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    The whole things sounds very simple to me. The only recording would be done on the xl4 or whatever they call it today, the minis would be able to view live Tv or recordings streamed from the main box. The mini would be able to schedule recordings on the main box and view the main play list. Seems one playlist would be a given. But IMO the main box should have six tuners.
     
  19. Sep 22, 2012 #199 of 1620
    slowbiscuit

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    ReplayTV did it 10 years ago, but Tivo is incapable of simply making a complete HDUI that performs as expected. Therefore I agree - for Tivo, this would be hard to do.
     
  20. Sep 22, 2012 #200 of 1620
    compnurd

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    Basically the way it should work(like it does with Direct TV) When you open my shows instead of just seeing the recordings on that box, plus seeing the other DVR which you then have to select to browse the shows, it would automatically show all shows from all DVR's it sees on the first screen. If there are duplicates, it justs groups them together in a folder and shows both shows. it is useful for people like me who have season passes spread over multiple Tivo's
     

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