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#227 ·
Yeah I guess Tivo and Ceton both jumped the gun, announcing extender products early in the year and now those announcements are starting to vaporize.
Well Ceton extenders are supposed to go to beta testers the beginning of October. I don't think they will make this year with the Q, but it all depends on how much beta testing it needs.

As it has been mentioned the TiVo Mini requires the next update so once that roll-out completes I would expect to hear more details.
 
#228 ·
You do realize that APPLE is probably the ONLY company in the world that announces a product only few days before it is available to ship.

No other company can afford to do it that way. Mini is coming, we have at least 2.5 more months before we should start getting worried. I bet we will see it before December, to be honest I am hoping before November.

I just ordered Tivo 4 with 4 tuners and Ethernet MOCA bridge to setup my whole house for Mini. Now I am counting days, to bad I don't know exactly how many more days are left. :)
The P4 supports MOCA already and so will the Mini's... Dont think you needed the bridge unless for something else now
 
#230 ·
Well Ceton extenders are supposed to go to beta testers the beginning of October. I don't think they will make this year with the Q, but it all depends on how much beta testing it needs.

As it has been mentioned the TiVo Mini requires the next update so once that roll-out completes I would expect to hear more details.
Thanks for the update. I was hoping the extenders would roll out soon, but it doesn't sound like it will be before December.
 
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Well Ceton extenders are supposed to go to beta testers the beginning of October. I don't think they will make this year with the Q, but it all depends on how much beta testing it needs.

As it has been mentioned the TiVo Mini requires the next update so once that roll-out completes I would expect to hear more details.
Bad news as it looks like the Ceton Q DVR has essentially been cancelled.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/02/ceton-echo-delay-q-dvr-on-hold/

also, it says this:

Echo Media Center extender is delayed slightly and the beta units have not yet gone out, Ceton still anticipates a release in time for the holiday season.

Not good news either and I tend to wonder if any of this stuff will get released (including the Mini). Although, I guess with these potentially off the market, maybe it gives the Tivo mini a much better chance of getting released & actually seeing the light of day.
 
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Bad news as it looks like the Ceton Q DVR has essentially been cancelled.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/02/ceton-echo-delay-q-dvr-on-hold/

also, it says this:

Echo Media Center extender is delayed slightly and the beta units have not yet gone out, Ceton still anticipates a release in time for the holiday season.

Not good news either and I tend to wonder if any of this stuff will get released (including the Mini). Although, I guess with these potentially off the market, maybe it gives the Tivo mini a much better chance of getting released & actually seeing the light of day.
not following.
what does any of that have to do with if TiVo launches the mini or not?
 
#237 ·
Other than this post, I have not seen any such guessing.
There was discussion over on Dave Zatz's site on one of his posts.

The new Mini supposedly needs the next update to work. The updates usually soak for around 2-3 weeks before mass launch. If the update launches this month then we should see mass rollout by Thanksgiving. TiVo is still saying the update will be this fall and we know the update is in testing. TiVo tends not to release anything after Thanksgiving due to limited staff because of the holidays. This then puts us at January and CES. TiVo would probably then have the Mini on display with the Series 5 behind closed doors under NDA. After CES and all the press releases die down, they would announce the Mini with price and a release data about a month later or in mid to the end of February.
 
#238 ·
I sure hope they announce the Mini soon and give a date, even if it's a ways off.

Right now I'm moving from Dish Network to Comcast (with a TiVo Premiere XL4) but I want to connect my kitchen TV to the TiVo. I could buy a used premiere with lifetime and then multi-room streaming but that's a waste if the mini comes out... (plus a TiVo is quite large so I'd love for a small mini at least for the kitchen)
 
#240 ·
I just want a mini for my bedroom. We watch maybe 10% of our tv viewing in there so a full blown tivo would be a waste of upfront purchase and monthly cost too.
This is exactly my thought. I have an old S3 sitting idle, but would much prefer the form factor of the mini in my bedroom setting. Would be much less conspicuous.

We're still waiting to see cost/subscription info.
 
#241 ·
I read somewhere that TiVo might hold off the consumer release of the Mini because of the whole live tuner XL4 requirement thing. Could have been blatant speculation, but it makes sense. The consumer confusion over it requiring an XL4 and having to actually steal the tuner for good, and not just when you're using the Mini, could get them a lot of bad press. They might be better served to just hold off until they work out dynamic tuner allocation and it works with all Premiere units.

Dan
 
#245 ·
I pretty much agree with innocentfreak's assessment.

Tivo hasn't said a peep publically about holding off until the dynamic tuner thing was resolved (I've been paying obsessive attention), so unless it came from an official channel or a beta source it's just speculation.

I have to think getting it out before the holiday is a priority if at all possible. With the fall software still targeting mid-to-late October (as of 3 weeks ago), this gives them a window before hitting the Thanksgiving wall. Unless the Mini's own software is just not where it needs to be yet, and/or they reacted to the early feedback on the whole live TV tuner thing.

6 weeks to Thanksgiving. Things will either start moving pretty soon, or potentially not at all until early 2013.
 
#246 ·
I pretty much agree with innocentfreak's assessment.

Tivo hasn't said a peep publically about holding off until the dynamic tuner thing was resolved (I've been paying obsessive attention), so unless it came from official channels or a beta it was just forum speculation.

I have to think getting it out before the holiday is a priority if at all possible. With the fall software still targeting mid-to-late October (as of 3 weeks ago), this gives them a window before hitting the Thanksgiving wall. Unless the Mini's own software is just not where it needs to be yet, and/or they reacted to the early feedback on the whole live TV tuner thing.

6 weeks to Thanksgiving. Things will either start moving pretty soon, or likely not at all until early 2013.
You'll notice all the recent deal announcements (e.g. Mediacom) have an early 2013 timeframe. In my view its not a coincidence. I think we may see a launch of the Mini to one or two MSOs before the holidays but the general availability will be Q1-13.
 
#247 ·
You'll notice all the recent deal announcements (e.g. Mediacom) have an early 2013 timeframe. In my view its not a coincidence. I think we may see a launch of the Mini to one or two MSOs before the holidays but the general availability will be Q1-13.
That is true too, yes. But retail also got the Stream first, if that means anything at all (possibly not). And how much does the 2013 timing have to do with the Pace box availability rather than the Mini?

History and circumstantial evidence points both ways making this tough to guess. But 2013 wouldn't be at all surprising... sadly, because BIGJIM WANT! :p
 
#248 ·
I read somewhere that TiVo might hold off the consumer release of the Mini because of the whole live tuner XL4 requirement thing.
Do you think the Premiere 4 (non XL) would also be able to handle the mini requirement if there is one? I know my next Tivo will be one of the 4 tuner variety, but which one I get depends on the Mini requirements now and in the future.
 
#251 ·
I wanted this yesterday too. Just like I wanted the Stream. But since they are dragging their feet with Android support for the Stream, I'll be picking up a Slingbox 350 on Sunday. Since TiVo doesn't want my money I'm sure Slingbox will take it.

So I hope they don't drag their feet with the Mini as well. My only reason for getting the Mini is so I can dump one cable card and finally get down to only using two cable card. At one point I had eight of them.
 
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