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The SD menus look horrible

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by Dan203, Sep 4, 2013.

  1. jmpage2

    jmpage2 New Member

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    Come on now. Every time you access messages from an online scheduled recording you are dumped into the SDUI. I probably see the SD screens at least several times a week, and it's annoying since HD screens have the preview window and all the eye candy.

    You're telling me that doing the "messages" screen in HD would have caused the ship date to slip? I kind of have a hard time buying that one.
     
  2. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    Poor grammar, it is a double negative - the date should not have slipped


    I don't get nearly that many messages - I am sure happy I have FIOS...
     
  3. jwbelcher

    jwbelcher New Member

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    Sure, looking at it that way, they've had a long time to bump up priority. However, new tech takes time to develop and we're seeing a big leap in tech following those litigation years. I can be sure Roamio didn't have a short development cycle to get where its at. Also, as a solution lead for a large firm, I understand how this happens. Other business development activities are pushed by mgmt to grow in adjacent markets. While frustrating, all of these other activities push stuff like this down the priority list. Resources aren't limitless and you have to make choices based on these kinds of demands. As a consumer, I don't like it, but I've seen how it happens.
     
  4. dianebrat

    dianebrat I refuse to accept your reality TCF Club

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    and what's a big deal for some folks is a non-issue for others. If I've come across a Roamio SD screen it's not in normal use and I clearly don't remember it, nor do I really care if they're that infrequent, same goes for my Premiere.

    Some people have made the SD screens a rally point that they will just not let go, the Roamio is a great improvement over the Premiere that never got the love or attention in development it should have.

    It's also pretty clear across multiple threads which TCF members have a chip on their shoulders on Roamio that they make known in any thread vs. other folks that have no such vendetta and are addressing concerns in a calm way.
     
  5. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

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    I have always found what different people find import interesting, but I really do not understand some people's fixation on this HD vs SD menu stuff. Frankly if it weren't for this forum I wouldn't know the difference.

    On my Roamio when I go into "Settings" or "Account & System Info" the menus look perfectly fine, the text is clear' very readable and I have no issue with my TV or receiver (when it was working) while moving around between the so called HD & SD menus.

    I can not believe that my 5 year old TV has some super powers that no other TV has and magically makes my menus look just fine so I really do not understand what the heck everyone wants. Do you want that stupid info bar on everything?

    Frankly I would think most people would prefer TiVo work on our DVRs feature set and not waist time on making our Setting menus look prettier.
     
  6. Bierboy

    Bierboy Seasoned gas passer

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    I couldn't give a sh*t about SD menus when I get messages....even if I accessed them "several times a week" as on poster said. The percentage of time I spend in SD menus compared to HD is STILL miniscule....and I can read the SD text just as well as the HD.
     
  7. jmpage2

    jmpage2 New Member

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    So now I have a vendetta against TiVo because a couple of things I've complained about like pop-up ads or the incompleteness of the UI? OK then. There's a flip side to that coin too which are the hordes of people that excuse anything that TiVo poorly executes on with the repetitive chime of "it's better than the alternative". In the case of the Premiere that was a very thin excuse and was quite debatable. At least with the Roamio TiVo have proven that they haven't completely forgotten the consumer market that put them in the brand position that they are in today.

    It still doesn't mean that there isn't room for improvement or that we shouldn't "complain" when things aren't as good as they could be. I tend to call things as I see them even if a few feathers get ruffled. FWIW I also have the top rated Amazon review of the TiVo Mini (which I gave four stars) and a pretty even handed review of the Plus which also has gotten good feedback.... so I'd say that my feedback is, on the whole, considered pretty 'valuable' by Joe Public.
     
  8. dianebrat

    dianebrat I refuse to accept your reality TCF Club

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    While I didn't call you out directly, my take has been that you're very unhappy with the Roamio, and are willing to make that very clear in multiple threads, other folks like myself are impressed with the Roamio and don't share your view. So yes, now I have called you out on it.

    It's the same thing as the Gravity thread and people being fixated on the science issues and not being able to get past it to enjoy the movie, so you can swap vendetta for fixation or obsession if those are better terms.
     
  9. Doit2it

    Doit2it New Member

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    While I defended the SD screens at startup and initial setup, I do feel the HD menus should be throughout the system after that. I'm not going to rant about it cause it's out of my control. Yes, if I worked in the Tivo design department I'd be ashamed of my incomplete work. If I was a manager, I'd demand the inconsistencies be fixed. There may be valid reasons why there are still SD menus (memory contraints, etc.) Other than request they make the user experience appear more uniform, I have to live with Tivo's failure to provide the user experience they started but didn't complete. OK, maybe I am going to rant about it. :)
     
  10. jmpage2

    jmpage2 New Member

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    Here is my Amazon review of the Roamio.

    http://www.amazon.com/review/R3VV8OP2UBP1RN/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm

    I also started the poll here on TCF on Roamio satisfaction and defended it from those who have it a very unfavorable rating.

    Exercise some care when wiping that egg from your face :).
     
  11. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    According to an interview with the TiVo CEO, the only reason is "priorities".

    It was really bad until the HD guide and other primary screens were updated, now it is just something for people to complain about.

    TiVo needs to finish them, if for any reason just to take ammunition away from the detractors.
     
  12. Riverdome

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    I have my Roamio connected to a 61" JVC read projection and while I did notice the SD menus they certainly don't detract from the device's usability or my user experience. Given a finite amount of R&D dollars I have a number of wishlist items I would like worked on before these menus. Yes it seems like an easy project to finish but it't not something I'll think about again until it's brought up again on this forum.
     
  13. LoadStar

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    I don't have a big problem with the SD menus... it just seems utterly baffling why they haven't updated them yet. I'm unclear how it could take more than a couple of minutes to take the SD menu items exactly as they read now and just move them into the new HD UI.
     
  14. jwbelcher

    jwbelcher New Member

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    Never been falsely accused of being humble, eh? ;)
     
  15. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    No, they need to finish them so they don't continue to look like a bunch of amateurs that don't care about the look and feel of their product.
     
  16. dianebrat

    dianebrat I refuse to accept your reality TCF Club

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    *shrug*
    I just know that certain folks routinely come up in Roamio threads complaining as I'm reading them, and my impression is that you're not happy with yours, no need to drag it out more, if you're happy, all the better, it's a great unit in my book.
     
  17. uw69

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    Not sure why we even have this thread. Really not a big deal for most folks. Maybe a slight annoyance but really it says a lot about how good the Roamio is, if this is a big deal to someone. :)
     
  18. mattack

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    I don't have a Roamio, but on my Premiere 4, as well as the *look* difference (UI lack-of consistency), there is a bit of a PAUSE when switching in and out of the HD interface.. so you see it every time you go to settings (not too often), or find by channel/time, the latter of which I do at LEAST once a day on average.
     

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