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The SD menus look horrible

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by Dan203, Sep 4, 2013.

  1. jmpage2

    jmpage2 New Member

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    I agree it leaves a bad taste especially during setup that TiVo is something of a dinosaur (even though that's not the case).

    Many of us get 100+ channels we don't subscribe to or watch, setting them with the SD interface is painful, if it was in HD with a preview window it would be a snap.
     
  2. severe

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    Yep.
     
  3. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Apparently you can remove channels via the guide, which has the little window, so there is an easier way to do this.

    I fix the problem by simply subscribing to everything. Except the Spanish channels, but those are easy to pick out by name and are in one block.
     
  4. jmpage2

    jmpage2 New Member

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    I am apparently not in the know on some of these guide tricks, I will have to play around a bit. We only subscribe to a mid-tier of Comcast programming and so there are many channels we don't get (and don't want) and it always seems like TiVo finds another one and starts recording blank suggestions from it.
     
  5. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    1 plus for Charter, at least here, is they arrange all the channels for a given tier into a block with a gap before the next tier starts. So like 2-90 are Basic, 100-190 are Extended, 200-whatever are spanish, etc.... so it's pretty easy to deselect a block you don't subscribe to.
     
  6. mattack

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    I don't have a Roamio, but I sure thought others confirmed previously that Find by Time/Find by Channel were still in SD.. Those are the ones that I see at least daily (on average). Yes, I have a bazillion season passes set up.. Yes, I still skim the guide to look for specials or missed shows.
     
  7. ShoutingMan

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    How do you deselect a block? Or do you mean, it's easy to press the select key 100 times in a row, to deselect sequential channels?
     
  8. severe

    severe New Member

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    Yea, I believe this is what Dan is meaning. It is an advantage in creating a guide.

    Also, as mentioned, one can add/remove from Favorites or Channel List, via the guide, by clicking on the channel number to get a popup window. Was this option available on the Premier boxes? If so, I hadn't known. It's made things a lot easier with the new box.

    Also, does it matter much whether I create a Favorites guide or a My Channels guide? Meaning, would creating a Favorites guide influence my TiVo Suggestions? I mean, you know, should my TiVo Suggestions happen to decide to work today? :rolleyes:
     
  9. ALbino

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    It's not about the SD menus themselves (although, they do look amazingly tacky) but it's more an indication of a systemic problem within the company itself. From a practical day-to-day purpose is it a "problem"? Not really. But it does make them seem incompetent, lazy, or uncaring about the users.

    I mean, do these guys even use their own product? You have to think that someone in management one day would be looking at these terrible SD menus and wonder what the heck is going on within his own company and then make an effort to fix it. It's been literally years and years and it hasn't happened yet. Makes you wonder.
     
  10. jmpage2

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    I bet Margaret cares about those SD menus. :)

    That woman seems to have a very good handle on what TiVo needs to do with their product based on what we've seen happen over the past 12 months.
     
  11. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Yeah. The way it auto jumps to the next channel makes it easy to deselect channels. I remember back in the old days before they added that auto jump feature. That was truly painful to deselect channels.
     
  12. ShoutingMan

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    This has been a feature for years; The TiVoHD does it.
    But it is faster now and a bit easier to use :) but I wish there was a live view in this mode. It is not designed for managing 1000 channels in the typical modern cable lineup.
     
  13. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I've been around since the early S1 days. The first software version I had was v1.3. I think this feature was added in the S2 days in v3 maybe.
     
  14. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    If that was true, they'd already all be converted with the Roamio release.
     
  15. Doit2it

    Doit2it New Member

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    I would think those two areas would be the only thing that would HAVE to remain in SD. If someone buys and hooks up a Premiere or Roamio to a SDTV, guidied setup would be illegible in HD on a SDTV. The unit doesn't know you have a HDTV until you tell it you do.

    Same thing with the welcome screens. The unit doesn't know what type of TV it's hooked up to until your saved preferences are loaded. I'm not sure of the boot order, but preferences would be after more important items.
     
  16. davezatz

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    Yeah, I guess she needs more resources to wrap this up once and for all. As has been said, in day to day usage it's not a huge deal... but it's reflects poorly on TiVo's ability to execute (to those who notice and care). And I agree something isn't aliasing right or similar.

    Eh, TiVo should be able to sense connection type and branch or display different resolutions... like many, many other set-tops.
     
  17. jwbelcher

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    Absolutely resources. New functionality is always king when prioritizing resources. No one buys Roamio just because all the sub-menus are HD nor will the not buy because of it either. What differentiates TiVo on the shelf does e.g. DIAL, OOH, mini DTA, 6-tuners, etc.

    Considering all the new tech being pushed into Roamio, it very understandable why these sub-menus have not gotten attention. Not only that, the bug fixes and releases (mini w/ season pass mgmt) since the Roamio are also more important. While ugly, WRT the new HD theme, they're still functional. I'd suspect with how busy Tivo is after launching Roamio, it maybe a while for those sub-menus to get some love.
     
  18. slowbiscuit

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    Wow, if that's not an apologist response for something that should have been done with Premiere release over 3 years ago, I don't know what is.
     
  19. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    But as far as I know Roamio doesn't have an SDUI option... Will it even work on an SD television acceptably?

    I think setup worry about a 4:3 television is moot on the Roamio line.
     
  20. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    Maybe, but I do appreciate the amount of effort that has gone into moving the product forward over the last 18 to 24 months. A long cry from the development malaise during the litigation years.

    It should have been done for the Roamio release and it is hard to believe that it couldn't have been done without the release date slipping.

    But, I really look at it in perspective - in my day to day usage of the Roamio, I never see the SD menus. If you are really looking for 1st world issues, you have sure found one! :)
     

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