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The Newsroom S01E03 "The 112th Congress" 7/8/2012

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by mwhip, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. Jesda

    Jesda CAPTAIN AWESOME

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    To Sorkin's credit, Maher is simply a lousy, bitter comedian. Newsroom at least tries to elevate the dialogue.
     
  2. Rob Helmerichs

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    Maher's a strange case...I actually liked him until 9/11, his bizarre affection for Ann Coulter nothwithstanding. Then, he had the "courage" debacle, after which he was terrified of offending anybody for a while, which of course destroyed his act. And when he recovered he was, well, bitter and lousy. It was like he was pretending to be the same guy he was before 9/11, but couldn't remember what that was like and so has become a kind of vicious parody of himself.

    Plus stupid. I don't remember him being as stridently anti-science as he is now, although maybe it just didn't come up back then.
     
  3. scooterboy

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    I don't see this at all. He's always bitching about things like people who don't believe in global warming when the studies are right in front of them.

    How is he anti-science?
     
  4. Rob Helmerichs

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    I shouldn't say "anti-science"; it's more that he doesn't let science get in the way of his beliefs. He's opposed to stupidity when it comes to things like religion or climate change, but he embraces it when it comes to things like vaccinations, pharmaceuticals, etc.
     
  5. TAsunder

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    It's interesting to look back at the big swing in the Tea Party ideology with the smugness of hindsight. A show like this can only address it somewhat interestingly because of time. I hope they never catch up to the present and then start making up stories. I don't have confidence in Sorkin to do that well.

    I liked episode 1 by far the most. This one was also quite good, and the prior one was fun but not as good. Despite how much I liked this episode, however, it is quite evident that the romantic plot arcs will be as bad or worse than the ones in Sorkin's other shows -- which themselves were abysmal. This is certainly his achilles heel and I have never liked any of his romantic plot arcs.

    I have also already grown tired of the background orchestral music in this show -- again, a trademark of Sorkin's work. Thankfully this and the romance stuff aren't in the forefront as much as in past shows and the main content of this show is extremely entertaining and rewarding, if perhaps not totally believable. Also, some of the "real" music fit in well, at least.
     
  6. marksman

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    Yeah. Clearly many of the reviewers got too caught up in their own political bias to review the show for being a tv show.
     
  7. DeDondeEs

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    It's going to be hard to have discussion threads on this show without it getting into politics. I am able to filter out the political ideology of the writer and just watch it for what it is. An entertaining show.
     
  8. marksman

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    I do want to third, fourth or fifth the Sam waterson praise. He is excellent. I was talking to my mom about this and she told me the first time she saw him in something he was a straw hat wearing hillbilly who danced around ridivulously.
     
  9. Steveknj

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    Aren't we ALL like that? Everyone looks for arguments that support their beliefs. It's called human nature. I'm not defending Maher, but I don't think he's any different than those of FNC or MSNBC who consider themselves a so called expert and then pick out this factoid or that to support their position.

    I will admit to being a fan of Maher's if for no other reason I find his show fun. But, there is a lot I disagree with him about.
     
  10. Rob Helmerichs

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    But in his case it's a bit more hypocritical, since he's doing exactly what he lambasts others for doing...i.e., ignoring the scientific evidence when it doesn't fit his opinion.
     
  11. Jesda

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    Maher used to be pretty funny. In recent years he's become more pompous and has begun to consider himself a bit of an analyst meant to be taken seriously.

    He's not that clever, just good at slinging one-liners. His cheerleader audience praises him for sneezing.


    I liked him on ABC.
     
  12. TAsunder

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    Sometimes it works the opposite way. At least for me. If I hear someone arguing for things I believe in, many times the way they are arguing and the vitriol and/or "logic" they use are terrible and I often find myself seeing the validity of what the "other side" says.
     
  13. MegaHertz67

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    I completely agree. He is the worst kind of pompous when he goes off on rants about food and animal rights issues. He is a complete shill for the PETA brand even though the animal rights wackos have just as strong, and just as inconsistent a belief system as any religion he criticizes.
     
  14. sharkster

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    Good episode. I think this might be my first Sorkin show, as I never watched any of the other, earlier referenced shows (for whatever reason - I have no idea).

    So - do you want to play golf, or do you want to f**k around? :D
     

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