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The Newsroom "Bullies" 7/29/12

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by zordude, Jul 30, 2012.

  1. Queue

    Queue UnbowdUnbentUnbrokn

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    Anyone else think the bodyguard will die?
     
  2. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

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    But there was no on-air admission. There was Sloan, claiming that somebody had told her something while he was denying it to her (and America's) face.

    She deserved to get fired. Who will ever tell another reporter from that network something off the record? She's just lucky that McAvoy had a mad case of the guilts, and let her get off the hook with only an on-air apology (and for a much lesser crime than she actually committed).
     
  3. RGM1138

    RGM1138 I wanna Rock

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    You're right, it was Sloan doing the admission. But, if you take an off the record statement, you have an unconfirmed rumor. Then you have to dig until you get more statements from people willing to go on the record. I've seen this in practice and off the record accounts may have worked for Woodward and Bernstein when there's time to build a case. But, when you've got a large amount of people about to become crispy critters because of false information, your future credibility means nothing when they find that you've withheld pertinent information that could have prevented a disaster.

    It's a choice you make.
     
  4. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

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    No, it's NOT a choice you make. A news organization without confidential sources is a news organization that gets no scoops, and then dies. A news organization that outs and humiliates their confidential sources in public is a news organization without confidential sources.

    Sloan killed her network. They will never get a scoop from a confidential source again. The show seriously downpeddled the incredible damage she did.

    The choice you make in that situation is exactly the choice that you yourself said they should have made. "You have to dig until you get more statements from people willing to go on the record." Alternately, you do a report based on anonymous sources. Sloan not only robbed them of the chance to do that, she robbed them of the chance to ever do that again. Because now, NOBODY WILL EVER TALK TO THEM.
     
  5. Peter000

    Peter000 Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    I think you're over dramatizing it. On the show, more people than not don't watch their news programming, and are completely ignorant of what's happening on the network. More likely, if anything, nobody will ever talk to Sloan again. I'm not a reporter, but from what I've seen being a an informant is 90% trusting the reoporter, not the organization the reporter works for.
     
  6. busyba

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    That already happened with C.J. and her bodyguard in The West Wing. Sorkin would never recycle a story like that!

    lol.


    Seriously though, I think that might be a shade too dark, dramatically, for this show.

    If we think of Sports Night (0%) and The West Wing (100%) as opposite poles of the Sorkin Comedy/Drama spectrum, I'd put The Newsroom at about 75% (and Studio 60 at about 40%).
     
  7. Queue

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    The West Wing story line is exactly what I had in mind.
     
  8. Howie

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    I like this show a lot, which pretty much guarantees that it'll get cancelled. I think it's a little too highbrow for the great unwashed. You have to actually think a little to enjoy it. Not that I'm any great thinker, mind you.
     
  9. busyba

    busyba The Funcooker

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    Will they include the romance too? :D
     
  10. Jesda

    Jesda CAPTAIN AWESOME

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    I actually find it to be a bit dry at times, primarily when they focus on the relationships between these incompatible and hard-to-like characters. Aside from Waterston and Daniels, they're a bit limp.


    The chemistry was much better on Sports Night (I finally got around to watching it).
     
  11. Howie

    Howie Out of Pocket TCF Club

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    I never watched Sports Night. If it's on Netflix or Hulu+ I just might have to check it out.
     
  12. smak

    smak TV MA SLV

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    I think it's ok that the chemistry on Sports Night was better, because those people had worked together a long time, while these people haven't.

    I think it's still early to judge the show on that.

    -smak-
     
  13. Rob Helmerichs

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    Well, it's been a year now...
     
  14. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

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    CNN really needs to hire McAvoy. If they had interviews like that, they wouldn't be in the position they are in.
     
  15. markz

    markz Hilarity Ensues

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    Yeah, but that was so Mark Harmon could go become Gibbs on NCIS!
     
  16. mmilton80

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    It is on Netflix streaming. I just tore through the series (again). I rather enjoyed it.
     
  17. Gunnyman

    Gunnyman Just a boring dude

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    Sports night was ahead of its time and was amazing tv. I'm a little surprised that Josh Molina isn't on this show. Sorkin loves him.
     
  18. MikeAndrews

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    Replace David Gregory with Wil McAvoy on Meet the Press. Tim Russert is cringing in his grave.
     
  19. Steveknj

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    I finally caught up to this episode. If they got rid of the love stories, I'd LOVE this show, now I only like it. Honestly, I don't see ANY of these people in any kind of relationship with each other. That part isn't working for me, especially the Mac/Wil part. They just don't seem like they were EVER a couple outside of the script saying they were. I love the newsroom stuff, and the reporting stuff. I liked this episode a lot strictly for the reporting on the Japanese NUKE and how that was handled. My son nailed it, Sam Waterston is the BEST part of this show. He needs more screen time.
     
  20. Dawghows

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    Interesting. I find it infinitely easier to believe Mac and Will were a couple than to believe Don and Maggie are a couple. But overall I agree: The relationship aspects of the show are not nearly as well-crafted as the work-place aspects.
    Could not agree more. And I could pretty much say the same thing for anything I've ever seen him in. He's great.
     

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