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The Newsroom - 08/26/12 - The Greater Fool

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by robojerk, Aug 27, 2012.

  1. Aug 27, 2012 #41 of 116
    Queue

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    The Dorothy Cooper case is actually real. I remember reading it a while back. The issue is that the building that had her birth records in it burned down before they were transferred to digital copy. This might have happened years and years ago. So she can't get an ID because no birth record of her exists.

    Edit to add: I was a little off. Here's an article explaining what happened http://articles.cnn.com/2011-10-15/...photo-id-laws-voting-rights-act?_s=PM:OPINION
     
  2. Aug 28, 2012 #42 of 116
    MikeAndrews

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    They do charge. In IL it's $20.
     
  3. Aug 28, 2012 #43 of 116
    madscientist

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    This, exactly. I spent some years like this when I was young. I'm not sure that people who aren't familiar with it really understand. Things like "spend a few minutes", "it's only $25", etc. are easy to say, but that's just not reality for many people. And as others have mentioned, it's often NOT just that easy: these laws are not designed to make it easy for people to get ID: if they were that would defeat the purpose (both real and stated).

    For the show, even though I consider myself a moderate progressive and I did agree with a lot of the shots taken at the far Right in this episode so in that sense I can't complain, I do wish we could get some clear-eyed look at the far Left. On the other hand the far Left is not getting anyone elected to Congress so they can be more safely classified as out of the mainstream. Also the party out of power is usually more activist than the part in power. Still there must be something they could put up there.
     
  4. Aug 28, 2012 #44 of 116
    Jesda

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    The absence of a constitutionally-explicit restriction does not mean restrictions cannot exist or be introduced later on.

    Rights are unlimited in spirit, regulated in reality.
     
  5. Aug 28, 2012 #45 of 116
    Jesda

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    Personally, I think a government-issued piece of ID should be free.
     
  6. Aug 28, 2012 #46 of 116
    Beryl

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    Yes!
     
  7. Aug 28, 2012 #47 of 116
    DavidTigerFan

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    DavidTigerFan

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    In fact, you should be able to get one at the post office.
     
  9. Aug 28, 2012 #49 of 116
    Marco

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    I love the show but the women characters bother me. Sorkin needs a female co-author to write stronger women.
     
  10. Aug 28, 2012 #50 of 116
    Lori

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    I'd also go grocery store.
     
  11. Aug 28, 2012 #51 of 116
    Rob Helmerichs

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    And time it to take effect after an election, not right before one.
     
  12. Aug 28, 2012 #52 of 116
    Dawghows

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    I'm against the photo ID requirement, at least in the way that it's being proposed. I already HAVE a voter ID -- my voter registration card. If I can produce that, I shouldn't have to produce anything else, IMO. But having said that, if you want to institute a photo requirement, then just put a photo on the voter registration cards, fergodsakes. And have a photo booth set up at the polling place where the card/photo can be updated/renewed every 4 years (or every 8, or whatever). Simple.

    Of course "simple" is exactly what they don't want.
     
  13. Aug 28, 2012 #53 of 116
    zalusky

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    What happens you have vote by mail? Do we mail in the ID as well?
     
  14. Aug 28, 2012 #54 of 116
    Ereth

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    No. Voter ID is only for "in person voter fraud", the least likely type of fraud to occur. Absentee and mail-in votes, which are far easier to commit fraud with, are unaffected by this effort.

    Which should be sufficient evidence that curbing voter fraud is not the real goal.
     
  15. Aug 28, 2012 #55 of 116
    mwhip

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    Back to the show...

    I am not sure why they threw the curveball of Sloan and Don. I really thought Sloan was going to fall for the Neal.

    I hated the Jim/Maggie thing. I guess I never understood why two people who really like each other should try to be together no matter what. Even if that means messing up friendships.
     
  16. Aug 28, 2012 #56 of 116
    gamndbndr

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    Living in Turtletown, in East Polk County TN I can tell you it is a chore to get a picture ID here. The county does not have an office on this side of the national park, and our closest office that can do it is in Cleveland which takes at least 30 minutes one way through a narrow river valley. No public transport either.

    To get a picture ID would take at least a half-day just to affirm your right to vote.
     
  17. Aug 28, 2012 #57 of 116
    Gerryex

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    I agree 10000000%!!!

    I like the rest of the show and I'm OK with the politics especially knowing its Sorkin but his treatment of relationships is high school at best. I know they would not eliminate the relationship aspects but if they minimized them the show would be much better!!

    Gerry
     
  18. Aug 28, 2012 #58 of 116
    Lori

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    The relationships are what make these people real for me, what makes me care at all about what happens to them.
     
  19. Aug 28, 2012 #59 of 116
    robojerk

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    It's the way these people bring up their relationships constantly during meetings with the rest of the staff and what not, I see it as childish behavior. Like Maggie screaming at the Sex and the City tour bus, really?. If they toned it down, it removed the childish behavior it would work. Like I and others have said, it feels like I'm watching middle or young high school children drag out their emotions.
    Mac and Will's relationship feels real, however Mac throwing her tantrums all the damn time is what I find annoying. She's supposed to be the producer and boss of this news room, but because of her tantrums I don't see her as an authority figure at all.
     
  20. Aug 28, 2012 #60 of 116
    Jonathan_S

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    See, that seems weird to me. I need my ID so rarely that when I fly I have to dig through my wallet to find it because it tends to migrate toward the middle of the card pile from lack of use.

    I renewed my license last month and, except to show the new style to some friends, the new one's never had to come out of the wallet. If I ever paid by check I might have to show ID, but not for credit card (or cash).

    Actually, aside from at the DMV for renewal, I'm failing to remember the last time I had to show my license. (I know I had to use my passport in early June, but the driver's license...)
     

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