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The Mentalist: Season Six "Red John: The Final Chapter"

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by astrohip, Oct 7, 2013.

  1. Donbadabon

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    Howard Stern. Because he invented everything.

    :rolleyes:
     
  2. madscientist

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    I just can't help imagining how happy and excited the writers must be to go to work these days, after getting the RJ albatross off of their shoulders. And it shows in the writing, I think.

    I'm so happy Cho is still there. He makes me laugh all the time, and he's a perfect counterpoint to Jane's zanyness. This show would be nowhere near as good without him, and kudos to those responsible for recognizing how necessary that character is. His conversation with Fischer near the end of the last episode was excellent.

    I was pretty OK with everything, even though the powers of the FBI are ridiculous, but whatever. The only false note was Abbott giving in to Jane's demands without even asking for a single name as proof (which, we are led to believe, Jane would not be able to provide).

    I was sure that it would turn out that one of those copies that Jane had Abbott sign was not actually a copy, but something completely different with more weight. He just signed all 5 papers without looking at them.

    One question: when Jane left his island and was getting on the bus, the hotel bellhop told him something that seemed to take quite a while and Jane was happy about it. I was sure it was going to be some kind of insurance Jane had worked out in case the FBI went back on their word but I don't think we ever found out what that was all about. Weird!
     
  3. john4200

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    You mean when the bellhop whispered in Jane's ear and Jane gave him a thumbs up? The bellhop was talking for 3 seconds or less. I'm not sure what you are talking about that took "quite a while".
     
  4. bacevedo

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    I assumed it had to do with Jane getting the local "bad guys" arrested and the bellhop thanking Jane for that.
     
  5. madscientist

    madscientist Deregistered Snoozer

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    I dunno. It was definitely much more involved than "thanks for the help" or "good to know you" or "visit soon". Plus in a TV show when someone whispers to the main character things that the audience can't hear and then they laugh, you kinda expect to get a reveal at some point as to what was going on. Why else would they show it?

    Just seemed odd to me.
     
  6. john4200

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    No, it easily could have been something like that. You really need to rewatch the scene.
     
  7. Jan 6, 2014 #227 of 357
    smbaker

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    I thought this Sunday's (1-5-14) episode was a bit of a snoozefest.

    They revealed the woman to be the killer half way through the episode. Jane's team was well on the way to solving the crime themselves. Jane puts himself in harm's way in an almost suicidal manner, counting on the team getting there in time and then ends up jumping in the water when they don't arrive on time.

    The supposedly super-smart female villain's master plan of shooting through the back window of the building in order to make it look like the person inside was killed by the police was wrong in so many ways. (no GSR on the dead guy's hands, improper trajectory from the police to the dead guy, etc). Most wrong was that they showed it directly to the audience, whereas this should have been the mystery to be solved.

    Generally the episode seemed to be lacking his characteristic charm.
     
  8. Jan 6, 2014 #228 of 357
    astrohip

    astrohip Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    Agree. A rather lackadaisical episode, in both writing and acting. Just mailed in...

    Was this the beginning of the no Rigsby/Van Pelt era?

    No spoiler tags needed, this is a Season Thread, any episode can be talked about as long as it's aired in the US.
     
  9. Jan 7, 2014 #229 of 357
    betts4

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    I agree, it was a snoozefest. I did like one thing - Cho being the one to figure out the shots thru the window bit. It seemed like he was channeling some inner Jane, or Columbo or such that see things that the normal cops don't see.

    I only got to see as far as the woman pointing the gun at Jane on the boat and him saying it was being recorded by the police the whole time.
     
  10. Jan 7, 2014 #230 of 357
    smbaker

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    I miss Rigsby, but the new FBI woman seems to make as good a Van Pelt as Van Pelt did.

    That's when I said to myself, "do they really need Jane in this episode?"

    It was a rather straightforward observation though, given the bullet hole made from outside the back window. Standard police procedural drama is to look for bullet holes and bullets everywhere, so it stands to reason it would have been found.
     
  11. Jan 7, 2014 #231 of 357
    john4200

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    The strange thing was that they had all they needed to solve the case right after Jane spotted the third camera, right at the beginning of the episode.

    They knew it was odd that the shooters knew about only 2 of the 3 cameras. And if they had someone fast forward through the video for the last few days, they should have easily spotted Crystal since they had her photograph and she was at least peripherally involved.

    But instead, a day or two passes before they finally identify Crystal on the video. And just in time for them to make a frantic rush to tell Jane that he is dating the ringleader (as if he did not already know).

    So, the FBI can identify a car by the sound of its engine, but they cannot be bothered to go through video files of the crime scene near the time that five DEA agents were murdered, looking for faces that are known to be involved in the case?

    The other strange thing is that Crystal looked right into the camera. Why would she do that? I doubt she could see it in such a brightly lit room. So she already knew it was there before she looked. That is not a careful and disciplined thing for a ringleader to do.

    Both things look like poor writing to me. The writing this entire season has been quite poor.
     
  12. Jan 7, 2014 #232 of 357
    john4200

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    Well, he did get Crystal to confess. Although I'm not sure if that phone call was actually recorded or not.

    I think Crystal only killed Paco because of what Jane told her about the case. But I don't think they have any proof tracing his death to her, unless she kept the gun she used to shoot him with and they are able to match ballistics to her gun. Which makes me wonder what her plan was anyway, wouldn't the police have run ballistics on the bullet in Paco's brain to see which officer shot him, and not found a match? Since she is supposed to be smart and careful, surely she would have got rid of the gun, in case the police figured out it was not a police officer who shot Paco.
     
  13. Jan 7, 2014 #233 of 357
    john4200

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    Minor spoiler from the next episode synopsis:

    Rigsby and Van Pelt are in the next episode.
     
  14. Jan 7, 2014 #234 of 357
    Rob Helmerichs

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    It was also amusing when Cho was barking orders at Lisbon, and her bemused reaction at their role reversal.
     
  15. Jan 7, 2014 #235 of 357
    eddyj

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    They knew Crystal had been there and been interviewed, there was nothing to identify. The breakthrough was in noticing that she knew about the hidden camera.
     
  16. Jan 7, 2014 #236 of 357
    jeepair

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    I recall him doing that before when Lisbon was suspended or something like that and she put Cho in charge. He barks orders nicely. Hanging around Jane has made him a better detective, otherwise he would have never gone into the back like that.
     
  17. Jan 7, 2014 #237 of 357
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    what happened top the big guy who was the mastermind's muscle? We see him stage a killing, wipe down the gun to remove fingerprints and then touch everything in the house on his way out.
     
  18. Jan 7, 2014 #238 of 357
    ADG

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    Was it my imagination or did that same guy dump a half dozen spent cartridges next to the body and then plant a revolver?
     
  19. Jan 7, 2014 #239 of 357
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    yup, I was having trouble figuring out what all was going on.
     
  20. Jan 7, 2014 #240 of 357
    betts4

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    He was great at barking orders to the other FBI agents. I was wondering about his seniority and then realized he had probably been there for a couple years (?)
     

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