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The Killing -- "What I Know" OAD 6.17.12 -- Season Finale

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Bierboy, Jun 17, 2012.

  1. Bierboy

    Bierboy Seasoned gas passer

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    Say what you will about the merits of this show; the acting was SUPERB. The scene where Terry confesses to killing Rosie was one of the best I've ever seen.
     
  2. mrdazzo7

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    I was gonna say the same thing--probably the most gut wrenching scene in the whole show... I think the other one for me was Stan's breakdown at the gas station last season. I think that guy definitely deserves some props. He was great in this scene as well. The whole thing was just horrible to watch. I'm glad the last scene for the Larsen's was them watching Rosie's video... if anyone needed some sliver of positivity it's them.

    When they revealed Jaime so early in the episode, I figured there would be another twist to come... I'm ok with how it played out. Terry's always had something going on, and all the pieces seemed to come together ok... Pretty messed up that she knowingly committed a murder in order to be able to finally run away with her boyfriend, having no idea it was her niece in the trunk... twisted!

    How come Aames isn't in any trouble? Jaime didn't tell Richmond that Aames was there at the park, but Terry confessed that he was there so I'm guessing the cops will be locking him up for being an accessory, etc. Just weird the way they left it with Richmond taking a meeting with him and Jackson... I'm not sure why the decided to leave Richmond off as a game-playing d-bag though, after two seasons of him trying to be the opposite. Just seemed odd.

    Also props to the guy who plays/played Jaime--his was the other performance of the night that knocked it out of the park. Up until now he's only played "weasly" for the most part, but he nailed it that whole scene.

    Not sure where the show is gonna go from here... Curious if it'll even come back. Does anyone follow the ratings? I wonder how it tracks against things like Breaking Bad, Walking Dead, and Mad Man.
     
  3. avery

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    Wow. What an episode – really satisfying and emotional. Loved it. Cried. A+ on the acting and the pacing. First episode of this show that I found myself talking to to the screen. The season overall was more than enough compensation for all the misfires of season 1.

    Not that surprised Terry was involved. I got a 'guilty/concealing something' vibe from her character last season. Now I know why.

    Two questions:

    I may have missed the explanation along the way but what is it that Rosie was doing, that put her on the floor under construction in the first place?

    Is the show supposed to return next season? [I surprised myself by becoming really attached to Linden and Holder]
     
  4. avery

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    The actor who played Jamie is Eric Ladin. He also played Betty Draper's brother William on Mad Men.
     
  5. Amnesia

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    IIRC, that's where the maids or whatever at the casino went to smoke. Even though Rosie wasn't working that night, she was on her way out of the city and from her smoke breaks, she knew that the 10th floor had a great view of the city and she wanted to see the city for one last time.

    OK, now here's my question: Supposedly the film that Linden gave to the Larsons was the film from Rosie's camera, right? But that doesn't make sense: the film that the Larsons watched was edited---it didn't come straight from a camera (especially not one that recorded to film instead of video).
     
  6. Barmat

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    I think Linden might have edited it and sent it to video transfer. She seemed to realy care about the Larsons.
     
  7. smak

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    I'm thinking that they should have shown some scenes of Rosie and the family from the past sprinkled throughout the series. It would have given her a bigger presence on the show, and we would have cared for her that much more.

    But well done episode, I think I can still give myself props for saying it was Jamie after episode 3, even though he technically didn't let the car go into the water, he locked her in the truck.

    So I'll give it to myself :)

    -smak-
     
  8. Bierboy

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    Yes, it was obviously done by Linden since it was a video transfer (film to tape or DVD for the Larsens to watch)...
     
  9. Bierboy

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    He certainly beat the crap out of Rosie...even though technically not murdering her. :(
     
  10. Family

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    Not to open an old wound , but this would have been really good if done in one season. I had forgotten many of the small details that made this a better story.
     
  11. sieglinde

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    The disappointment was that the Indian Chief got away scott free.
     
  12. crazywater

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    Richmond did show some hints of being a game-player during the two seasons who was willing do whatever it takes to get elected, just slicker than Adams.

    I hope it comes back. My guess would be they would pick the case that put Linden in the nut house the first time. They laid the groundwork for that a few episodes ago revealing that she never believed it was the father that committed the murder.
     
  13. dwells

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    I guess I am in the minority, but I enjoyed the whole run of this series. I never understood the ‎incredible hatred people had for this show- it has to be one of the most unfairly criticized television ‎shows of all time.‎

    I get that those who thought they were promised a resolution were upset, but to me, even with its ‎flaws, the Killing was still better than the vast majority of what is on TV today. I for one enjoyed both ‎seasons.‎

    As for the finale, I thought it was excellent- I don’t think I would have been satisfied if it had been just ‎Jamie, but the Terry twist really made the episode.‎

    The one question I had about the resolution is the motive of Jamie for trying to eliminate Rosie. Did he ‎even know for sure that Rosie had actually heard (or seen) everything? Even if she had, would she ‎have known what in the heck they were talking about? Did she even know who Jamie was?? She was ‎just a scared high school kid, was she really that big a threat to their plans?? To me, Jamie’s reaction ‎would have made more sense if he had run into another politician, for example.‎
     
  14. Bierboy

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    I have to agree with all of this. I enjoyed the entire two-season run and also feel it was (I believe unfairly at times) vilified...
     
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    Agree! I think the series was more about character development, different perspectives, the drama involved all around.....rather than a "who dunnit". The Rosie murder was a vehicle to several other stories and perspectives.

    I loved both seasons and liked this one even more. A couple of episodes were dragged out a bit, sure, but the acting directing and storyline were all great and compelling.

    It will be interesting to see where this goes.
     
  16. Amnesia

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    That's how I felt at first, but I thought that Jamie's explanation to Richmond (self-serving as it was) adequately addressed that. They were meeting in secret. Jaime discovered her and was trying to question her when she attempted to escape. He knocked her down and she hit her head---killing her, or so he thought.

    At that point, what was he going to do when she woke up? Just let her go? It's too late for that.
     
  17. mm2margaret

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    Can't resist seconding or "thirding" that sentiment. A lot of vilification came here, especially a particular Tivo forum user, who couldn't resist blasting the series episode after episode. Very tiresome. What a jerk.

    It was a very good show, and well worth the time! Sure, it had some not so great episodes, and some failings, but what show doesn't? On the whole, it was a terrific series.
     
  18. Cainebj

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    OK it appears I am in the minority from the love.

    I "liked" it but in the end I was just watching from habit
    - I think they failed in so many places.

    Most importantly Rosie Larsen all but disappeared as the focal point of the show in season 2 and then in the last couple of episodes they tried to bring her back to the forefront and it was too little too late.

    Ultimately for me - I didn't really find a connection and was not emotionally invested in the characters - so during the great breakdown scenes when I should have been floored - eh - I felt not much.

    I know I know I know - what I am about to say -
    but this really took a nose dive for me after I watched the original version of the show and ultimately I think this is another example of GREAT television from another country being RE-made by Americans and the American version paling in comparison.
    Which I never understand when they have a brilliant roadmap how they still manage to mess it up? :eek:

    They did make some interesting changes from the original plot points including who the killer(s) were but I am not sure it was for the better.
     
  19. Bierboy

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  20. Family

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    Yeah I wouldn't call it a teriffic series, but it didn't deserve the hate. Holder was a great character and the acting was first rate .

    I just got lost. My wife who said she could follow everything didn't even remember there was a season 1. Both years had merged and she seemed to recall everything. I found it confusing. Wasn't Stan supposed to go on trial for attempted murder? And how would Terry have something over the real estate scum guy if she was the one doing the killing?
     

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