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The Killing S04E06 Finale

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by JohnB1000, Aug 8, 2014.

  1. Aug 8, 2014 #1 of 17

    JohnB1000 Well-Known Member

    Dec 6, 2004
    Great show but I thought 5 & 6 were much weaker. Joan Allen being his Mom was very predictable. Too many tropes in those last two.

    Bringing Richmond back caused me to have to go look up his story. Tough to remember.

    Little B's headstone saying 2014 was odd.

    I started writing this venues the jump forwards. I was surprised there were 10 minutes left.

    I thought the coda was nice, Despite being cliche I think I liked that. Partly because we didn't have a will they / won't they throughout the show.

    I will really miss the show.
  2. Aug 8, 2014 #2 of 17

    ADG Allan

    Aug 19, 2003
    New Jersey, USA
    Nice ending. I won't miss the show - too much of a downer.
  3. Aug 8, 2014 #3 of 17

    gossamer88 HDTV Snob

    Jul 26, 2005
    Da boogie...
    I hated the ending. Joan was good in this but hated that she was his mom. And the two that bullied Tyler would not have since they witnessed the murders and ran for their lives.

    Also Linden and Holder have romantic feelings?! That was out of character for both of them.
  4. Aug 9, 2014 #4 of 17

    trnsfrguy Advanced !

    Apr 28, 2005
    Bronx, NY
    Out of character for Linden, but Holder has had feelings for her since last season or maybe the 2nd season. I know he tried hitting on her before.
  5. wprager

    wprager Active Member

    Feb 19, 2006
    Ottawa, Canada
    Well, saw the finale just now. Glad they had a chance to wrap it up but not exactly sure how it ended. And don't really care that much. No-way some homeless girls would have huge headstones with their names on them. But I guess it's TV.
  6. hairyblue

    hairyblue A good Man

    Feb 25, 2002
    Denver, CO
    I'm still not sure how Joan Allen's character is the mother of Kyle. How did Kyle end up at a rich family that hates him and calling him one of their own? And Kyle didn't know he was "adopted?" What did I miss?

    I'd rather Linden and Holder not end up romantically together at the end.

    I am glad she came back to say she's sorry for doubting his loyalty.
  7. DeDondeEs

    DeDondeEs Well-Known Member TCF Club

    Feb 20, 2004
    Las Vegas, NV
    I was happy with the ending. The whole subplot of that military school was superfluous to me, I was more focused on the whole Skinner killing being unwound. As soon as I heard Holder tell his daughter when she was getting on the bus that she was going to be at her Mom's for a few days indicating that he wasn't married, I knew that the show was going to end with Linden and Holder together.
  8. TAsunder

    TAsunder Debates Ghee vs Gi

    Aug 6, 2003
    Madison, WI
    I thought it was ambiguous whether they had romantic feelings. I am glad they ended with at least some ambiguity. My wife preferred to think they were going to be in love, and I preferred to think that they just had a deep friendship.

    I like how they just let his break-up with Jewel Staite (can't remember her character's name) be an unspoken thing we knew would happen.

    hairyblue, she was sleeping with his dad for many years and he married his wife after, was my interpretation. Thus her statutory rape was ok in her mind or something... I dunno.

    Overall I thought this was a strong season compared to the others. I think it is hard to judge it without looking through the lens of horse crap from previous seasons, but when I try to, I realize that it was a better format for a mystery (only 6 episodes with progress and fewer red herrings), and the characters actually had some movement.
  9. JohnB1000

    JohnB1000 Well-Known Member

    Dec 6, 2004
    aka UK style tv.
  10. wprager

    wprager Active Member

    Feb 19, 2006
    Ottawa, Canada
    Definitely ambiguous. It's not always what it looks like - wasn't that the line? Or something like that. The Commander and her dance instructor spent the night but did not sleep together. Who knows, really.

    The whole whole Billy Campbell thing was a huge Deus ex Machina. When I saw his name on the credits at the start I wondered right away if there was going to be some political coverup. That wasn't done all that well IMO.
  11. snowjay

    snowjay 40mph couch potato

    Mar 26, 2007
    Almost in...
    I knew there would be a Skinner cover up, I though it would be Reddick that would do it to protect the dept but bringing Richmond back was a nice way to tie it all together.

    They never made it clear why Holder left the dept. He was actually a good detective despite what his "buddy" Gil had to say about him in the early seasons.

    I am glad that Linden went back to say she was sorry. She really hurt Holder when she doubted his loyalty which he was right to the end. I just wish she did it sooner and not years later.

    I don't think the ending where Linden goes back to Holder is ambiguous at all. She even said it felt like home with him. She got a different view of the city and had a moment of clarity not wanting to leave "home" again.

    I'm sad to see the show over, I really liked the Steven Holder character. His sayings always had me laughing.
  12. JohnB1000

    JohnB1000 Well-Known Member

    Dec 6, 2004
    I think there was any number of obvious reasons for him to leave and it completely made sense that he would.
  13. wprager

    wprager Active Member

    Feb 19, 2006
    Ottawa, Canada
    The ambiguous part was whether there was a blossoming romance or not. They didn't end it on a long kiss, or like on Castle and that makes it ambiguous to me. I thought it was done that way on purpose, for sure. And the seed was planted earlier on the episode with the relationship between the Commander and her dance instructor.

    You can call a place home without being romantically linked to the people around you.
  14. robojerk

    robojerk Active Member

    Jun 13, 2006
    Laguna Hills CA
    I thought the season was horrible.
    No real police work was done to solve the Stansbury case. Just dumb luck.
    I also thought it was obvious that city politics would want to cover up Skinner being the Pied Piper killer. It would be a huge PR disaster for the city and the police department if the man spear heading the case to be the actual killer.
    Linden is the worst.. She is too empathetic, bi polar, and self destructive. There's no way someone with her behavioral health history would ever be a detective. She does nothing but burns bridges and cry and complain how everyone leaves her.
  15. JohnB1000

    JohnB1000 Well-Known Member

    Dec 6, 2004
    wow what a robojerk :D
  16. robojerk

    robojerk Active Member

    Jun 13, 2006
    Laguna Hills CA
    Ba dum tsssss.....
  17. DLiquid

    DLiquid Progressive User

    Sep 17, 2001
    Holder was always my favorite part of the show. Such a great and funny character.

    I think that The Killing just got better with each season, with this season probably being the strongest, though season three was really good too. A six-episode season is definitely better for a show like this.

    I wish Holder and Linden didn't unravel quite so much in these last few episodes, but it did make for some powerful moments. In the last two episodes, the Skinner thing overshadowed the case they were working on, which made the resolution of that case kind of anti-climactic. I really didn't expect that the son killed the whole family with intent like that, even his little sister. That was shocking. I agree that it doesn't make that much sense that the two would bully him after that. It seems like they would keep their distance, hoping that he wouldn't remember.

    I'm surprised they ended it with Linden and Holder potentially living happily ever after. I definitely did not see that coming, and I never thought of them as having that kind of connection, but the way the dialogue was written, it kind of worked for me.

    I'm going to miss this show, but I'm glad that we got an ending.

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