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The clock is wrong because it's right!

Discussion in 'TiVo Home Media Features & TiVoToGo' started by unitron, Feb 16, 2013.

  1. mrmega

    mrmega New Member

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    I applied morac's simple curl.conf fix yesterday (which needed reboot on XP) and it has worked flawlessly (with the correct date/time) on a S2, S3 HD and a S4 HD using Tivo Desktop on a Windows XP machine.

    To borrow from unitron, "All hail notting and morac!" :)

    mrmega
     
  2. twiddly

    twiddly New Member

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    Brilliant !!!!

    I don't know why it works, but it works!
     
  3. degobahjunk

    degobahjunk New Member

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    2.5.1 never had a curl.conf file. So just adding one to the TiVo Destop folder didn't solve the problem. (And yes, I did have the correct location & folder.) I don't even know what a conf file is, but 2.5.1 apparently didn't rely on one, so that particular fix didn't work.

    I gave up & downloaded 2.8.3, added the cookie = "sid=abc" line & I'm back in business. No wonder it seemed like such an easy fix for so many others! My new TiVo Desktop is currently transferring!!

    Thanks notting, unitron & especially morac for figuring this all out!
     
  4. ggieseke

    ggieseke Active Member

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    That same line of code is in tivoapp on a Premiere, and goes back at least as far as 7.2.5 on a Series 2. :eek:
     
  5. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    notting and morac figured it out, I just noticed that they figured it out and happened to mention it here and there.
     
  6. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    Did 2.5.1 have curl.exe somewhere in the TiVo Desktop folder in Program Files?

    Maybe they wrapped it inside another executable that included hard coded config parameters, and decided on later versions to leave the config file out separate where it could be tweaked if necessary.
     
  7. twhiting9275

    twhiting9275 TV Buff!

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    Glad to know Tivo is so on the ball about this. Kind of reminds me of Amazon Prime. Oh wait, we're not allowed to talk about that any more.
     
  8. kumaaz99

    kumaaz99 Member

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    notting is a genius..thanks. after days of researching & messing with this issue, resetting the clock solves the problem right away. I guess it would be too much to expect to have the geniuses at TIVO come up with this or solve the problem.
     
  9. degobahjunk

    degobahjunk New Member

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    Don't think so. I did a search for "curl" (even in "hidden" system files & folders) & didn't come up with one.
     
  10. ShayL

    ShayL Member

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    I wonder why TiVo bothered with using SSL connection for the show listings then if TiVo transfer the contents in the clear.
     
  11. wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Ziphead

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    Another good question. Of course I can only speculate. I think in this case the right question might be "why aren't the contents SSL'd?", and I think the answer might be "too much overhead". The metadata is very small by comparison.

    To attempt to compensate for the lack of SSL, I guess, the TiVo demands a session key in order to transfer the content, thus proving that you successfully made an SSL'd connection earlier to get that key. But this is broken in at least two ways: the fixed (now past) expiration date, and a failure to even check the value of the session key.
     
  12. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    Too bad TiVo seemed to have cleared up their programming act a little when implementing MRS as when I looked at it anyway it seemed pretty hard to crack. Now I'm starting to think that maybe there's some shortcomings that can be exploited there too...
     
  13. reggers

    reggers Cool Geek

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    That fixed my problem as well. You wouldn't believe how much time I've spent installing different versions of TiVo Desktop, Bonjour, mucking around with my router settings, restarting computers and both TiVo Units.....HOURS!!!!

    Now how long for TiVo to fix the problem!?!!? What's the best way to escalate this to them as without a fix, the TiVo Desktop Software is basically useless.
     
  14. msmart

    msmart New Member

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    reggers, the work around is the fix. No need to wait for TiVo.

    To me, the curl.conf work around resolves the problem so regardless of what TiVo does, I'm not installing it.
     
  15. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    I'm not sure why you are so hyper. If you are running the latest version of TD and have made the change to the curl.conf file, TD is no longer "useless". This option isn't available to me as I am running Win2K, which is why I am glad I switched to pyTivo and kmttg a while back.
     
  16. reggers

    reggers Cool Geek

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    A bit hyper because I'd rather it be fixed the right way rather than me screwing around with config files every time there's an issue.

    Also - I'm a bit frustrated as this problem occurred at the same time I was upgrading my network (removing some old routers/switches) and also installing some new external storage. I had my main machine down for about 2 days and when I brought everything back up, this is the one thing that wouldn't work and I beat my head against the wall for 4 days trying to figure out what I had done wrong.

    Obviously not checking here first is what I did wrong.

    As soon as my current transfers/conversions are done, I'll implement the curl.conf change.
     
  17. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    I suppose I was a bit lucky(?) in that regard as I was at a friends house from Thursday afternoon to Saturday afternoon and all I knew was that her TiVo did not receive something that should have been auto pushed to it from my system. When I got back and tried the transfer again and got the error, the only other things I tried was transferring a different file and using pyTivo and TD instead of kmttg. Then I checked the TCF and found that using java downloads instead of curl worked.
     
  18. MikeAndrews

    MikeAndrews Registered abuser

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    I'd be hyper to think about mere mortals now having non-functioning file transfers and no way know how to fix it, with Tivo support saying there's nobody else having that problem.
     
  19. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    That would explain why people who don't know how or can't fix it are hyper. I know I would be hyper if I didn't have kmttg and pyTivo since I can't fix TD. It doesn't explain why people who do know how and can easily fix it are still hyper. Still mad at TiVo, absolutely. Hyper, no.

    In cases like this, TiVo has become like most other companies - they are loathe to admit that there is a problem on their end even if they know for certain that there is one and the techs are actively working to solve it.

    A friend of mine just finished a short stint as a CSR in support of a new s/w launch. She got called on the carpet one time for informing the user that they (the company) were experiencing server problems. Apparently, she was only supposed to say that she would "look into the problem" that the user was having and get back to him.
     
  20. djl25

    djl25 C64 hacker

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    Just for kicks, I loaded a copy of tivoapp into a hex editor and changed the "1" in 2013 to a "2". Copied it back to the (hacked) TiVo, restarted, and now transfers from nowplaying/TivoConnect page are working fine. Guess I bought myself another ten years...

     

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