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The Celebrity Apprentice "And Then There Were Two" OAD 5/13/12

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by tiams, May 14, 2012.

  1. getreal

    getreal postcrastinator

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    LOL! You're kidding, right? More failure than success = FAILURE! Unless your plan is to fail, in which case you are succeeding as a failure.

    I think what you were trying to convey was more about taking RISKS which can lead to success or failure.
     
  2. Frylock

    Frylock Live Long and Tivo!

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    If I had a choice to hire Arsenio or Aubrey, I hire Arsenio. He knows when to step up and when to let people do their jobs. He's not a micro-manager. Aubrey's not a micro-manager either. She just dumps the whole team and does it all herself.
     
  3. Dnamertz

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    It's not that simple. Aubrey's strong suit was her creativity and she did have some good ideas. She was undone by her ego, which led her to believe that every idea that came into her head was the best idea ever. You hire someone in business who tries to create a new product line out of every idea they come up with and can't differntiate between the good ideas and the bad, you'll be out of buiness...unless all their ideas are truely great.

    This isn't the "Idea Show"...it's "The Apprentice". People had different stregths. Aubrey's was creativity, Lisa was a good writer, other's were musically gifted making them good at the jingle writting. Arsenio is a performer, and he shown when in that perfomance/presentation role on challenges. Outside of that, he had some ideas, and managed people well (except Aubrey to some extent) as project manager...and I think he raised more money than her.
     
  4. Ment

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    He's where Dayana would be if she didn't try to put a stamp on her task and she isn't F2 material either. I'd even argue that Dayana is better prior to her tanking, at least she had good suggestions even tho on many occasions the timing was suspect.

    If performing was his strength why didn't he put together the structure of stage presentations. Drumming and badly rapping doesn't do it for me. Again I give him a pass on the idea part, he really didn't have to much do with the execution either.
     
  5. JFriday

    JFriday "Just The Facts"

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    If you play Major league baseball and fail 7 times out of 10 at the plate you are a success. If you only fail 6 out of 10 times you're a sure fire hall of famer.
     
  6. getreal

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    That only applies to MLB.

    Now that I think about it, CEOs of giant corporations can destroy the economy of their business (and more) and still leave their job with golden parachutes and the company's pension plan in their off-shore bank account. Same goes for politicians who get a gold-plated tax-free pension for life after only a relatively short term in office. And stock brokers earn money when they earn their Client's money, but they also earn money when they lose thier Client's money.

    But I still stand by the concept that, as a business model for the vast majority of people, more failure than success adds up to FAILURE.
     
  7. JFriday

    JFriday "Just The Facts"

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    Celebrity Apprentice isn't a business.
     
  8. getreal

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    That was never in question. It's a game show.
     
  9. Amnesia

    Amnesia The Question

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    No, it's a reality show. Game shows need to be fair.
     
  10. Dnamertz

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    Drumming and rapping was all you remember? There were a couple presentations (such as the most recent one where Theresa got fired) where the execs thought he was one of the highlights.
     
  11. Dnamertz

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    I'm only half way through this past week's episode, but we are also seeing that Clay is having the same issues trying to manage Aubrey that Arsenio, and everyone else had. Her "nobody checks me" attitude and her saying "if you give me a task, I'm only doing it my way" is not someone you want on your team or in business. The most telling thing about Aubrey is that she was the last one picked for teams.
     
  12. Amnesia

    Amnesia The Question

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    Actually, she wasn't picked at all...
     
  13. bareyb

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    People like Lisa and Aubrey are not team players. They both ACT like they are, but in reality all they do is cover their own butts and toot their own horns. In the REAL world, people that take credit for everything usually just piss off the people they are working with and eventually get canned because nobody wants to work with them. Tooting your own horn can only get you so far. People have to respect you too, and that's something that both Lisa and Aubrey both lacked. They showed little respect, and they got little in return.

    I jumped for joy when Trump got rid of them both. I'm sure he did it quickly, just so he wouldn't have to hear all the "reasons" why they both think they should win. I found them both nauseating, and I wouldn't want either one of them anywhere near my business. ;)
     
  14. Dnamertz

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    Just finished watching the whole episode and both Arsenio and Clay seem to be doing a great job as PMs and both deserve to be in the final 2. Even Lisa commented on how great a job Arsenio is doing even though her management style differs from hers.

    As for Lisa donating to Clay's charity...is she doing that as part of this challenge? If so, that is MUCH worse than Lou Ferrigno giving an opinion about the other team's product being better. What Lisa is doing could actually help the other team win. Hopefully she is just donating to his charity separate from the show.
     

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