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The Amazing Race 4/22/12

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by bryhamm, Apr 22, 2012.

  1. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give em Hell, Devils

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    I think it's been a LONG time since they made the racers decipher the clues on a regular basis. There may have been an isolated clue here and there that required them to figure something out, but overall, it's been at least ten seasons since the clues have been very difficult.

    I think any of us that are fans of the "race" aspect of the show would like to see more difficult clues. But the reality is, watching the racers blunder around without being able to figure out the clue does not make for good TV. And this is a TV show first, and a race second. They have to keep the teams moving and keep the action flowing. Having a bunch of dough heads running around asking locals what some clue means isn't compelling TV.
     
  2. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give em Hell, Devils

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    Speaking of that, how about Ralph and Vanessa finding an alternate flight in this episode that actually got them to India before everyone else, only to then immediately squander their lead by loafing around the airport asking people how to find a bus rather than simply going outside and getting on the bus.
     
  3. Necromancer2006

    Necromancer2006 New Member

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    But the trouble is, the "storyline" isn't created at the time of the race. Hours and hours and hours of footage is generated and then gets packaged by the editors and writers to flesh out a story to make it entertaining. They might have had an idea that Mark and Bopper would be a very feel-good team, but at the time, who knows if they were going for an arc that day between Team Army and Team Border Patrol (based on the previous leg's blatant animosity and blow-ups)?
     
  4. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give em Hell, Devils

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    This is a good point. I'm not 100% confident that the producers manipulate the placement of the non-elim legs to keep popular teams in the game longer. However, I do think it's a possibility. And I also think it's very likely that the producers had seen enough at this stage of the race to know that all the other teams had been involved in some kind of drama or another, while Mark and Bopper had been nothing but positive toward each other and the other racers. It wouldn't be hard for them to figure out that M&B would be the feel-good team of the season.
     
  5. robojerk

    robojerk Active Member

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    I think since the season where a team was arrested in Morroco (some local people told them a clue was in a mosque, it wasn't, and according to the local laws only members of islam may enter the mosque) the producers keep a very close eye on the teams. I think they also keep track of bitter fights and rivalries, and alliances perhaps to tell the camera men to keep the cameras rolling when near their rivals or alliance members to catch any drama.
     
  6. gschrock

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    Is that something they never showed? Because I sure don't remember that. The closest I remember someone getting to being arrested was once season where they had a real dispute with their cab driver, I want to say somewhere in Africa.

    I honestly don't believe they determine whether a stage is a non-elimination stage or not based on who's at the bottom. There's an awful lot of logistics that go into these things, and at the very least, you'd be affecting the number of camera crews you'd need for a leg if they change whether someone's getting eliminated or not.
     
  7. laria

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    Yeah I don't remember that either. Only the one you mention with with the taxi, which was in Africa and involved Colin of "my ox is broken!!!!" fame. :)

    Edit: Google says the taxi incident was in Tanzania.
     
  8. robojerk

    robojerk Active Member

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    Andre & Damon from season 3

    They get lost and are then "detained" by a constable after almost going into a mosque (not sure if that was the reason.) The last image you see is the constable demanding that the camera be shut off. While in detention, they are repeatedly asked for their papers which they refused to do because of stories about the police holding onto them and not returning them.

    The camera turns back on at the mat. On the mat they look really weary, told they are safe from elimination as it's a non elim leg, but from what I remember they looked like they didn't care about that fact at that moment and were just happy to be out of whatever situation they were in. I always wondered if the producers had to pay for their freedom.

    EDIT: They were eliminated on the next leg. They were so far behind because of their detention that all flights to the next country/destination had already left and there were no more flights available for the day.
     
  9. laria

    laria Librocubicularist

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    Oh right, I remember that. The taxi drove them off into nowhere land. I don't remember there being a mosque involved, just a taxi that drove them way off the beaten path, and then the local police did want to hold them.

    The Wikipedia does say that the AR security team had to get them out of the situation:

     
  10. ElJay

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    The dance challenge was interesting. I do wonder why didn't just edit out the whole Mark/Bopper giving up thing. It seems pretty clear that the fix was in after that. I don't really care, but they made it appear fairly blatant for no reason.
     
  11. BluesFools

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    Realistically this was the last leg that could have been non-elimination. We know there are 5 teams going into next week's leg, which means there will be one more leg with 4 teams, then the finale. If this were an elimination leg then next week would have 4 teams, and that can't really be non-elimination. Everyone knows that with 4 teams, Phil congratulates each of the first three teams to arrive and tells them they have made it to the final 3 and will be racing for $1M. If that didn't happen, it would be blindingly obvious to viewers that it was non-elimination the moment the first team reached the mat.
     
  12. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give em Hell, Devils

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    Previous seasons in which the final* non-elimination leg happened with four teams remaining:

    1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, and 17

    In other words, it's far more common for them to have the final non-elimination leg after the next leg rather than after this leg.

    *There have been several seasons where the final leg is spread out over two episodes, effectively acting like a non-elimination leg with just three teams, but I didn't count those as non-eliminations.
     
  13. mattack

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    Yeah, I wondered about the travel agency too. In a VERY quick shot, we saw a sign (partially cut off on the right, at least on my SD-recording) that said something like
    travel agency
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    which I guess implied that's why everyone went to the same travel agency.


    Also, so people agree that it was a "pity pass" to give him the pass on the 12th dance? He didn't seem to be better or worse on that one, and even what they showed had some 'misses' where he didn't match the other dancers.
     
  14. tiams

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    I think they should have given it to him way earlier. He was no worse than some of the others. You can look at as the judges were too harsh on him or as they were too easy on the women and border patrol.
     
  15. tiams

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    Makes me wonder what his ex-wife must feel knowing she this awful woman is going to be influencing her children.
     
  16. Boston Fan

    Boston Fan Active Member

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    Which one? There are apparently FOUR ex-wives. Hard to believe, given what a charmer he is.
     
  17. fmowry

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    I doubt a bunch of unlikeable players would affect viewership much. I guess we'll see how Survivor does after this horrible season.
     
  18. fmowry

    fmowry Active Member

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    Being saved twice certainly plays a role. That and the fact that Dave and Rachel have pretty much dominated makes everyone else almost non-factors. Pretty crazy Dave and Rachel's dominance:

    Leg 1: 1st
    Leg 2: 1st
    Leg 3: 6th (Express Pass used to bypass Detour, 2-hour penalty)
    Leg 4: 2nd
    Leg 5: 4th
    Leg 6: 1st (Fast Forward)
    Leg 7: 1st
    Leg 8: 2nd
    Leg 9: 1st
     
  19. tiams

    tiams New Member

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    The one who is the mother of his children.
     
  20. heySkippy

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    I think Dave and Rachel are a good team and deserve to win it all at this point. Yes, there is some minor snark and disagreeableness between them, but not that much and easily excusable given the stresses of the race.
     

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