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The 20.2 changelog thread

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by crxssi, Jan 8, 2012.

  1. Jan 9, 2012 #41 of 640
    rainwater

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    Pause ads always disappear after an update. Never fear, they will surely come back after your Tivo makes a few connections.
     
  2. Jan 9, 2012 #42 of 640
    megazone

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    When it goes back to the video the mini-channel bar pops up very briefly but that vanishes on its own. It looks like the behavior is that whenever you go to full screen video, no matter how you got there, you get that channel bar with the current channel and/or program info for a second. I think that's fine, others apparently don't like it.
     
  3. Jan 9, 2012 #43 of 640
    andyf

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    Well, not exactly. If you clear mini-guide nothing pops up.
     
  4. Jan 9, 2012 #44 of 640
    TheWGP

    TheWGP Hmmm...

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    Awesome list! Thanks for posting!
     
  5. Jan 9, 2012 #45 of 640
    jkudlacz

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    It is possible that ads are not being served until new UI is fully deployed to all units.
    My company sometimes doesn't' serve ads on certain browsers or code base until it fully out in PROD.
     
  6. Jan 9, 2012 #46 of 640
    cherry ghost

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    It also doesn't come up after clearing info or just letting it go away on it's own. mini-guide will also go away on it's own without clearing
     
  7. Jan 9, 2012 #47 of 640
    innocentfreak

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    TiVoMarget just tweeted that MRS was turned on for those with 20.2. You need to force a connection to enable.
     
  8. Jan 9, 2012 #48 of 640
    danjw1

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    @tivodesign: "We've turned on Multi-Room Streaming for Premieres running 20.2 as of this morning. (Connect to the TiVo Service now to enable.)"
     
  9. Jan 9, 2012 #49 of 640
    aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    Thanks!
     
  10. Jan 9, 2012 #50 of 640
    i2k

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    VERY nice surprise to see this update. Keep up the good work :) So far so good on my Premiere XL
     
  11. Jan 9, 2012 #51 of 640
    compnurd

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    Yep Working great!
     
  12. Jan 9, 2012 #52 of 640
    CoxInPHX

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    This behavior is not consistent when pressing Select during a recording playback.
     
  13. Jan 9, 2012 #53 of 640
    sbiller

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    Easier navigation to Episodes - New Episode guide shows only episodes available in broadband or broadcast TV by default making access to shows more clear and even easier. You can use an option button on the remote to change the filter to show all episodes, available or not, or only free episodes (Episodes not requiring a per episode purchase).

    Easier navigation to Episodes - New Episode guide shows only episodes available in broadband or broadcast TV by default making access to shows more clear and even easier. You can use an option button on the remote to change the filter to show all episodes, available or not, or only free episodes (Episodes not requiring a per episode purchase).

    [​IMG]

    Here is a suggestion on the Discovery Bar of different broadband content. In this case Hak5.

    [​IMG]
     
  14. Jan 9, 2012 #54 of 640
    crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    I am glad you like it.

    According to another thread, it has too much "opinion" in it, things should not be listed as positive or negative, and that I should take a back seat.

    I am trying REALLY hard to get over that and carry on.

    I would be interested if people think "positive" and "negative" is meaningful for categorizing or helpful when they are reading the list (knowing that some might be debatable or neither positive nor negative... just different). Perhaps just "changes" and "bugs"?

    I am a bit behind updating it, and will likely not attempt to tonight since I am just too worn out from work, and medical stuff, and then dealing with "that other thread". Sorry
     
  15. Jan 9, 2012 #55 of 640
    sbiller

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    I really appreciate you putting together this list!

    I think categorizing as positive or negative could be changed to a different categorization since some of the things you list as negative may not be considered negative by some and vice versa.

    Maybe a way to handle this would be to categorize as:

    New Features

    Dropped Features

    Fixed Issues

    Known Issues / Defects

    Thanks again!
    ~Sam
     
  16. Jan 9, 2012 #56 of 640
    brentil

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    Probably to be more PC since this is a change log thread to just replace positive with Fixes and negative with Bugs. Then people feel more like they're pointing out issues needing to be fixed and not opinions for or against TiVo.

    It's all a game of semantics to be PC... It means the same thing by definition, but it removes any emotional attachment how it's been presented.
     
  17. Jan 10, 2012 #57 of 640
    L David Matheny

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    Please do carry on with this. And there's nothing wrong with characterizing changes as positive or negative (or neutral in some cases). Anybody who doesn't have opinions just isn't paying enough attention.

    The only quibble I agree with is that the term "bug" is sometimes overused (although not necessarily by you). Strictly speaking, a program bug is an unanticipated action or side effect. If TiVo intentionally does something everybody hates, that's a bad ergonomic choice, but it's not really a bug. OTOH, I guess if a change seems completely goofy, it's not unreasonable to speculate that it must surely have been unintentional.
     
  18. Jan 10, 2012 #58 of 640
    EldRick

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    A Bug is when it doesn't do what it is supposed to do, i.e. freezes requiring power-cycling to get back to functioning.

    An Issue is when it doesn't do what You think it should do, which is an entirely different kettle of fish. For example, taking away Native format support is an issue, but the way the new code works has a couple of bugs.

    I keep reading about a lot of issues here, but rather few bugs...
     
  19. Jan 10, 2012 #59 of 640
    sbiller

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    Per Margret, the White Plus icon is for:

    Very cool!
     
  20. Jan 10, 2012 #60 of 640
    aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    MRS seems to be working very well. I haven't tried it's limits yet though(Before when it was activated if I tried a ninth read/write stream on Elite- seven on non Elite(including recordings, downloads, and local viewing) with the hard drive it would reboot)

    But I did have on my XL two recordings, two streams going out to other premieres and one stream coming into my XL working with no issues. It was just like watching the content locally.
    Although it is still jarring going from the normal HD screen with the preview screen in the corner to the Now playing list of the other box with no preview screen.

    If I get a chance tonight I'll try seven streams on my XL and nine streams on my Elite to see if it still reboots like before. Hopefully it should only allow what it can handle to prevent a reboot. It depends on what I have set to record tonight.
     

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