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The 20.2 changelog thread

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by crxssi, Jan 8, 2012.

  1. astrohip

    astrohip Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    What do you see as the mission-critical flaws that would require a rollback?
     
  2. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    You will love both of them. I highly recommend you check them out. I, of course, use Linux. But you can run them natively under MacOS, too (no need for using under a virtual machine, unless you just like to experiment). KTTMG is primarily for pulling stuff off the TiVo, but has tons of other useful features like a remote, ability to backup your season passes, background reordering of season passes, etc. I do end up using PyTiVo the most, however (to send stuff TO the TiVo to play).
     
  3. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    How about the fact that my Premiere can no longer access the TiVo Desktop server? Yes, I now I can use pyTivo and I do but

    a. pyTivo isn't the officially supported solution.

    b. The metadata problem has, from my viewpoint, partially crippled all transfers.

    Finally, the fact that there are all of these obvious problems says to me at least that this release was rushed out the door w/o sufficient testing, probably to fix the "real" problems with the Elite s/w and to get MRS out the door. BTW, while I have no data to support it, I suspect that the changes to implement MRS are the source of the transfer issues.

    I don't really expect TiVo to back out this change and I've mostly been seeking work-arounds for the problems. I guess I'm just venting my frustration here. Living up to my own sig line.:D
     
  4. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    Well, I can't comment to that. Since TiVo Desktop is closed, proprietary, and not available for Linux, I have never used it, never will, and never pay attention to it. I suspect you might have a network or settings issue, but that would be something better to investigate in a different thread.

    Being "officially supported" doesn't necessarily mean it will operate better, provide more or better features, perform as well, or even bring reasonable support from the provider. In my case, I really don't care much about the metadata, since I just want to watch some stuff I might have on my computer from the TiVo. But I know it frustrates some users.

    We could say that about nearly all the releases. I am grateful they are finally pushing out useful updates that contain real improvements, even if it means there will be some bugs/issues. Hopefully, some people at TiVo monitor the changelog and notice that we find the improvements and the bugs and will keep carrying them over, keeping them visible :)

    That's OK. We all have frustrations.
     
  5. morac

    morac Cat God

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    What's odd with the iPad app is that instead of getting the 5 minute wait on the box, you get a 5 minute wait in the app. I'd be curious as to what happens if you exit the app during this time, but I've never gotten up the nerve to try this.

    I'm guessing the wait in the tivo.com SPM is simply not visible.
     
  6. innocentfreak

    innocentfreak Active Member

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    I think it still goes through, but it has been a while since I used the iPad to do it.. KMTTG essentially acts the same way and it will time out on me due to the high number of season passes but the changes go through.
     
  7. wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Ziphead

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    The metadata thing was demoralizing for me, since I'd just (literally only hours before I got 20.2) got metadata where I wanted it -- finally working around a longstanding TiVo-side bug, by generating fake .TiVo headers for every file. And then 20.2 comes along, and breaks metadata worse than it's ever been broken before. And I can just picture this never getting fixed, either.
     
  8. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    I was hoping that this latest TiVo s/w change in conjunction with your change to pyTivo would enable (with some minor mods) the sending of the program level unique ID.

    I am hoping that the metadata problem and the TD server problem are in fact related so that if they fix the TD problem it will fix the metadata problem. Slim hope, especially if it only affects TD 2.3.
     
  9. jrm01

    jrm01 New Member

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    Don't think this was mentioned yet - could be wrong.

    I am always way behind in watching Jeapordy (27 episodes in my list). I used to just select the folder, hit advance to go to the last episode in the list. After finishing it, delete and I am set to select the new, last episode.

    Now when I select the folder and hit Advance it goes to the end of the options following the list. Means I have to step up four times to get the last recording. Then when I watch and delete, the cursor has returned to the top of the list and I have to repeat the process.

    Would be nice if the Advance only went to the last episode, and following a delete the cursor would remain at the end.
     
  10. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    Yes the extra options inside the folder in HDUI I found very annoying. The SDUI does not have them and thus much better suited for sequential episode watching. It was examples of little things like that besides the general slowness that frustrated me about HDUI and so I ended up going back to SDUI.
     
  11. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    What I'd like to see is the option to sort by record date in ascending order.
     
  12. newsposter

    newsposter Poster of News

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    i'm unhappy with the fade to left of the myshows screen and the circle that i never saw before. now it comes up all the time and it takes longer to get into a folder...everything is just slower.

    backwards step for sure.

    to boot it locked up today then rebooted.
     
  13. wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Ziphead

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    But the UniqueID isn't helpful unless the program is already in the TiVo's database. They expire after a while, and usually I'm transferring things that were never in there to begin with. Still, you have a point -- if I expose the UniqueID in the container data, maybe it will help in some cases.

    Why are you using 2.3, anyway?
     
  14. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    Since the program ID in at least some instances is the TMS program ID (it matches the ID you see in zap2it), I'm hopeful that it will actually do something on a Premiere.

    More current versions won't run on Win2K. Can't afford to upgrade.
     
  15. jrm01

    jrm01 New Member

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    Why didn't I think of that! Better yet, why didn't TiVo think of that. Can't think of a time when there are multiple episodes in a folder that I wouldn't want to view the oldest one first.
     
  16. tomm1079

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    This is annoying. Thank god for the iPad/Android app. I do all season pass reordering through that and never have any issues.
     
  17. tomm1079

    tomm1079 New Member

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    How would you do it optimally?
     
  18. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    Sure you can. Linux is free ;)

    (Sorry, couldn't resist)
     
  19. WillH

    WillH New Member

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    I'm not sure I understand what is at issue here and maybe I am totally of the mark but my Premiere offers recording quality in a similar fashion and I am pretty sure this has been a feature for a long time. Get This Movie ->Record This Movie-> Options->Recording Quality

    It the material is not a movie, I don't think you will always get the Recording Quality menu - I think it depends on the format and original source.

    Maybe I am missing the mark here.
     
  20. innocentfreak

    innocentfreak Active Member

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    Sunday through Saturday with local primetime shows or shows with single airings and then Sunday through Saturday with cable shows or shows with multiple airings.

    If you put shows just in order of preference you risk having say a USA show record which will repeat over and over instead of a show on FOX which will air only once.
     

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