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The 20.2 changelog thread

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by crxssi, Jan 8, 2012.

  1. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    No, stopping a recording in SDUI does NOT automatically delete it - I wouldn't want it to ever do that. (Suggestions are first thing I disable on a TiVo so can't comment on those).
     
  2. mattack

    mattack Active Member

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    I don't have a Premiere, but isn't there a case where it WILL delete a non-suggestion?

    If a show is currently being recorded (or 2, lets say), and you try to record ANOTHER, and it says
    "will STOP recording WHATEVER", doesn't it in that case NOT keep the partial recording of WHATEVER?

    I do seem to remember there is one edge case like that.
     
  3. WillH

    WillH New Member

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    Not sure if this was reported but I am using my Premiere XL with Comcast here in Atlanta using the 2 tuner cable card. With all previous software from April 2010 through 14.9, if I tried to go to a channel that was not part of my Comcast subscription/lineup, I would get a black screen error message that said, in effect, that I would need to contact my Cable provider. It looked like a sort of old DOS type screen that originated from the Motorola cablecard ROM. In other words, it would throw me completely out of the Tivo menu into some type of computer ROM error message -almost like a crash. The only way to get out of it was to hit the TIVO button on the remote.

    Now with 20.2, at least so far, when I have done this, I get the Tivo message that says "Searching for a signal......" and then it eventually says the channel is not available. This I would think would be normal behavior. So this looks to have fixed the issue. ?
     
  4. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    I had that issue for the longest time as well but on only 1 of my Premiere units. It turns out the issue was my CableCard was not properly paired so that if I tuned to a copy-protected channel (only premiums are copy protected for my cable company) I would get that screen. Once I called the cable company to get that fixed then I no longer got the CableCard nag screen any longer on that Premiere either.
     
  5. WillH

    WillH New Member

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    Thanks - I will play with this some more. I've only had 20.2 for a few days but the few channels I tried it with, it didn't happen.

    Hate the thought of actually contacting Comcast again for help on a cablecard issue.:(
     
  6. MikeOrlando

    MikeOrlando New Member

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    I was disappointed with the last update where I lost the ability to FFx3 and then hit FF a forth time to "smart restart" or "snap back to the start of the show. I had done some research and received mixed results whether this was expected behavior or not.

    I was HOPING this would be "fixed" in the 20.2 update, but unfortunately not. Am I to presume this is now expected behaviour?



    Mike
     
  7. wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Ziphead

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    I have never seen FF behave that way. The old behavior was simply that a fourth FF press would return to Play. This involved a slight rewind as it always does with a TiVo, but not a return to the beginning of the program.

    If you want to get quickly to the beginning of the program, hit Rewind, then use the Advance button.
     
  8. MikeOrlando

    MikeOrlando New Member

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    Understood, but the result of that behaviour was "snapping back" a bit and if you did this at the right time it would return to around the time a commercial break ended and the show resumed.

    For now you get the same result by hitting play in place of FF a fourth time, but that is just annoying and not the way TiVo has been in the past.
     
  9. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    It's been discussed in many threads now and there was even a poll on the subject. Many people like this new behavior because TiVo doesn't always properly process quick button presses of the remote so before it was too easy to overshoot 3xFF and end back at play speed and then have to press 3 times again to get back to 3xFF. Now you just press FF a bunch of times without having to be precise and can get to 3xFF every time without making a mistake. Ideally TiVo would make this a preference somewhere so people can choose the way they want it, but given a choice I much, much prefer the new behavior and I think TiVo has already mentioned it's here to stay, so get used to it or go back to Series 3 if you really don't like it.
     
  10. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    Just got 20.2 last night and things I have noticed that I don't see in the IP:
    (Using the HDUI)

    1. Maybe it's just me, but the progress bar appears thinner.

    2. First Aired Date has been removed from the "Info" screen.

    3. First press of the "Up" arrow immediately changes the resolution rather than displaying the current resolution.

    4. Pressing the "Info" button while in the guide brings up the options for the highlghted show.

    5. The mini guide is a mini grid guide.
     
  11. innocentfreak

    innocentfreak Active Member

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    I definitely agree with 1.

    2. I think this was just moved up to the banner portion. I swear I saw the original air date on the info screen.
     
  12. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    Just so we're clear, I am talking about the "details" (Actors, Producers, Directors, Disk Usage, etc.) screen.
     
  13. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    This is not true. It is/was available while watching "live" TV. What is new is that, when using the HD menus, it is now available while watching a previously recorded show, which is what ADG noted.
     
  14. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    The "Live TV" channel/Info banner has "UP NEXT" at the bottom.
     
  15. arw03

    arw03 Almost Customer

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    Very glad I checked in here to see what this was all about. I haven't had issue with my TiVo for a long while, so I haven't had need to return until now. My biggest concern was the guide setup. Previously, I had it set so the guide came up transparent over the airing program. Seemed like less of a hassle. Obviously that option being gone was a bit bothersome.

    But, without stopping here, I never would've known about this mini guide thing by pressing Select. Just as effective, I suppose, since my My Channels list isn't terribly long.

    Also, it's definitely great that menu transitions are a little smoother and quicker using HDUI.

    3.2.2 bothers me a little bit, but not enough to hate this or anything.

    Aside from the guide thing, I think the worst part to adjust to is just going to be the font changes. Everything looks smaller, but it does seem a little more crisp, so shouldn't be much of a problem.
     
  16. sbiller

    sbiller Active Member

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    This TCF reader did a great job walking through the complete UI. His commentary is pretty good as well!



    I'm not sure I've seen the lack of HD labels in the guide mentioned as a change (negative).
     
  17. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    You need to quote more of what you were replying to, since I don't know what you are referencing...
     
  18. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    Good catch. Added as 3.1.3.3
     
  19. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    Added to 3.1.10

    Need more info/confirmation. I do not see a first aired date on anything, but I do not know if that is something new...

    Added as 3.1.17

    Added as 3.1.2.8

    Edited 3.1.14
     
  20. CoxInPHX

    CoxInPHX COX Communications

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    Does this help, I listed the comments and responses in order.

    Prior to 20.2 and in the current SDUI the Info Bar does not list the current tuner positions, while playing back a recording.
    Listing Tuners in the Info Bar during playback is a New item with 20.2 HDUI.
     

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