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The 20.2 changelog thread

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by crxssi, Jan 8, 2012.

  1. morac

    morac Cat God

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    The guide remote code changes depending on what remote you use. The TiVo knows which code to listen for when you press the TiVo button. So if you swap remotes, you need to press the TiVo button first or the guide button won't work correctly. Maybe that's what happened to you?
     
  2. gespears

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    Any news on whether or not they are going to fix the SPS 9 code and move the clock from the middle of the screen and make it the same size it was before?

    Thanks
     
  3. sbiller

    sbiller Active Member

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    I'm guessing they will make it an officially supported feature sometime this year!
     
  4. basscadet

    basscadet New Member

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    I just got the update on my Premiere tonight. Overall I like it pretty well (I hated the SD guide), but one thing that's bothering me and I don't see listed in the changelog is that it no longer displays "HD" in the grid guide for HD shows? Or maybe this is a bug like the "new" tags disappearing? I have no "HD" displays on the grid guide - I have to look at the info for a show. For me this is really annoying because I basically just won't watch a show if it's not HD, and some networks (like Food Network) do have shows that could be either HD or SD depending on when they were filmed (and the SD versions are stretched). So I need to click around all over the guide to figure out what I can actually watch.

    Also, since it seems like we're just generally commenting on stuff, I must be the only one who *liked* the Discovery Bar the way it was... it's really disappointing to me to have only four things in it now. I actually did use this the way TiVo intended - to find stuff to watch that I might not have thought of before - though even still, it only had maybe a 10% "hit rate" with me. But with only four items in it, it's now basically useless - there just aren't enough items in it to make it worth even glancing at now, because the chances of any particular one of them being something I want to watch are very low.

    These are the only two big complaints I have. One more minor complaint is that the left arrow button seems to *rarely* work on any screen in this release, and I guess I'd gotten into the habit of using that to "back out" of pretty much anywhere I happened to be. I'm having to re-learn how to get around. The "HD" display thing seems like a bug so I'm hoping that just gets fixed somehow.
     
  5. gteague

    gteague golftango

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    has anyone other than me noticed that the hd menu system seems to have gotten slower and slower the further away from the update we travel? it's such a subtle and incremental thing i barely noticed it for days until the lag time started accumulating enough to be noticeable. i'd estimate the hd menus are perhaps 15-20% less responsive than the few days after the update was loaded. for me who had previously deep-sixed the hd menus for being too slow, that point is nearly being reached again where i abandon them for the sd system.

    /guy
     
  6. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    I reached my threshold of tolerance of HDUI after about 1 week and reverted back to SDUI. Too many little bugs/quirks/inconsistencies and still way too slow for me. I try not to use the GUI much at all on the TiVos anyway so HDUI doesn't do much for me anyway. Unfortunately some things such as Recording History that are part of SDUI were broken with 20.2. In any case the release and reliability of MRS though more than makes up for most of the negatives for me, especially since one can MRS still-recording programs.
     
  7. lessd

    lessd Active Member

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    +1
     
  8. CoxInPHX

    CoxInPHX COX Communications

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    Yes I do notice that too. Reboot now takes longer also. 5+ minutes now

    I have an issue during rebooting now too. When the final boot screen loads it is only the upper left corner of the screen, but displays the full boot screen in that upper 1/4 of the display. Very Odd.
     
  9. sbiller

    sbiller Active Member

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    I have no issues during rebooting. My reboot times have increased a bit. I'm thinking that the increased boot times may be related to the number of programs stored on the TiVo.

    TiVo Premiere w/ 500GB external drive: 4m 50s - 94% full
    TiVo Premiere Elite: 4m 45s - 27% full
     
  10. TerpBE

    TerpBE Go Terps!

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    I noticed something the other day that may or may not be a version 20 change.

    When performing a wishlist search, they limit the number of matching items (300 I think).

    For example, I have a wishlist for "Movies, (2010) * (2011) * (2012)". I like to check it now and then to see what newer movies are airing in the next couple of weeks. However, when I looked at it the other day I noticed that the list only included airings for the next three days! I looked at the guide and there was guide data for ~2 weeks, but only 3 days worth of movies were listed for the wish list.

    Doing a quick flip through the list, I think the number of entries was ~300, so I don't know if they set that to be the maximum number of search results allowed. Also, I'm not sure if this was necessarily changed for version 20.2, but I never noticed it before then so I'm suspecting it was.

    Can anyone verify whether this has been changed or if it has always had a limit?
     
  11. astrohip

    astrohip Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    I may be confused or not reading this correctly, but in the first bolded (my bold) statement, you refer to "matching items". In the second bolded entry, you refer to "number of entries", then "search results allowed".

    Are you referring to number of WL or number of results?

    There has always been a 200 cap on the number of results displayed from a WL search. This goes back to antiquity. As far as number of WL allowed, I can't answer. I have around 60-70. Have had as many as 80-90 in the past. Never hit a limit, but I'm not in the triple digits either. There were times in the past I hit the 200 cap on displays. I haven't had that problem lately. Either they raised it (300?), or the Boolean tweaks I added to many WL have helped.
     
  12. CoxInPHX

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    Removing 480i from the Video Output Formats resolved this. But 480i upscaled to 1080i is not pretty.
     
  13. jkudlacz

    jkudlacz New Member

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    You can get 6 suggestion windows if you choose to close the Video window in top right corner. :)
     
  14. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    Curious- why are you rebooting?
     
  15. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    I have not noticed that myself, but I did start getting the mysterious, blue, spinning, wait circles that people had complained about in the past. Have never seen them before (ever) before yesterday. They seem to appear at random. Of course, this is the longest I have ever used the HDUI. I have had to switch back and forth from HDUI to SDUI several times over the last few weeks when attempting to verify things for the changelog. But I have never rebooted.

    I am still able to tolerate the HDUI, which is still very unusual behavior for me.....
     
  16. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    You have more tolerance than me. I threw in the towel after about 10 days and went back to the good 'ole SDUI. Especially now that the "stops responding to remote control" SDUI bug seems to be history I can't find any good reason to put up with HDUI.
     
  17. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    It's purrrrrdy ;)
     
  18. compnurd

    compnurd New Member

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    yup lol
     
  19. WillH

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    The "spinning circle" used to be a solid green donut and the green color would vary in brightness indicating a "spin" effect. So far, I have not seen the spinning green circle with 20.2 but I have seen a new blue "starburst" type spinning circle. The times I have seen it, it was very brief and so far, it hasn't "hung" like the spinning green circle.

    Also, I seem to remember the discovery bar was visible on the guide and Tivo Central but not sure. If they did in fact drop it from the guide, this is a step forward.

    HDUI does seem a bit faster but deletes still seem to take forever.

    EDIT: This may have been mentioned before but just like all previous versions, when you are playing a show that was recording and attempt to delete it (while watching it), it will ask you if you want to STOP and then DELETE but it not only takes forever to accomplish the task, it sometimes will not delete the show - it will still remain in My Shows.
     
  20. Lars_J

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    Yay... I have not been following the site, so it was a pleasant surprise to turn on the TV to see a new release. It just looked different. :)

    As an SDUI user I like the cleaner more consistent UI. I would love to try the HDUI, but as a parent of young school kids I need to have parental controls enabled. I'm already looking forward to the next major release, since that has been promised as part of it.

    I have noticed a few things in 20.2: (again, these are SDUI)

    - After playing a Youtube video, the TiVo menu navigation stops making the typical 'blip blip' TiVo sound. And the menu sound doesn't come back until I play a DVRed recording. (I did see this on the previous release as well)

    - A navigation change, when I use the 'find program'(?) search, and then select a show, it now goes directly to a list of upcoming airings, instead of the menu where I can add a season pass. Right now I have to select an airing to get the option to add a season pass. Not a major issue, but slightly annoying to have an extra step.

    - Also... Youtube playback is *still* limited to 360p/480p quality. Why not 1080p?
     

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