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The 20.2 changelog thread

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by crxssi, Jan 8, 2012.

  1. tomhorsley

    tomhorsley Active Member

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    Another weird glitch I noticed: I'm browsing through tivo suggestions. I see a show I don't ever want it to waste time recording again. I select it to get to the screen for that individual show so I can hit thumbs down a lot. I then select "delete this recording".

    That almost instantly takes me back to the list of suggestions, which even has the show I just deleted already missing from the list. Wow, I think, it is actually quick here.

    Then a second later, the whole screen goes black and it redraws the exact same screen from scratch again. Weird.
     
  2. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    Very similar to 3.2.6
    Did you have an "X" showing on that recording when you went back to the list, then it redrew the screen to remove the X'ed show from the list? Having a single redraw is "normal" (annoying, but normal).
     
  3. mnb

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    Hitting select brings up the mini guide, not the info banner. Hitting select again to begin the SPS sequence selects a show on the grid, which fails the SPS entry.
     
  4. mnb

    mnb New Member

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    With the old guide you could arrow over to the right panel and hit select to get record options on the show that is currently playing on that channel.

    With the new guide, hitting select changes the channel, which is unexpected behavior. It does this when you are in the left or right panel.


    If you scroll down to a show playing in the future in the right panel, the guide behaves as before... ie: hitting select brings up a record option screen.

    This happens if you do this on the channel that is currently live or not. If the channel is live (ie: being watched), it dismisses all dialogs and pops up the mini info banner and play bar as if you'd just changed the channel to that show. If you hit select on a currently playing show on a channel that isn't live, it changes to that channel.
     
  5. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    Mission...
    Corrected my post for workaround 1.
     
  6. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    * HDUI (there are two UI's)
    * Sounds like you are talking about the Live Guide (there are two guides- live and grid)
    * Yep, the behavior is probably a bit different, although it actually makes sense. If something is currently playing (current time slot), it just takes you there. Probably no need for recording options at that point.
    * I am not familiar with the old, live, HDUI guide, since until recently, I could never tolerate the HDUI long enough to get to know it. I will assume you are much more familiar with it, so I will add this as another entry describing changes in the guide. Good observation!
     
  7. morac

    morac Cat God

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    Rather than put bugs in a negative category, would it be possible to break things out that are obvious bugs as opposed to things you simply don't like?
     
  8. cherry ghost

    cherry ghost Active Member

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    3.2.2

    There is no longer a "mini". And yes, the only way to get "medium" is to change the channel or go to Live TV from the menus. Someone has mentioned elsewhere that the right arrow will eventually be used for something other than bring up the "full" which will then only be accessible by pressing 'info".
     
  9. jsmeeker

    jsmeeker Notable Member TCF Club

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    Thanks

    I really don't care so much about losing the "mini', but I wish I could easily bring up and dismiss the "medium" without changing the channel.

    Not really a major thing, but I will have to get used to different behavior when using the left and right directional arrows while watching LiveTV, or even a recorded program.. After over 10 years of use, it's different now. :D
     
  10. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    Well, we talked about it before. Maybe I will try a different format next time (if I can muster the obsession to do it again). Bugs are always negative, though (that is by definition of what a bug is). But sometimes changes are neither positive or negative (or they are both), since it is more subjective. Just tried to go with what appears to be the majority sentiment. Even label some when it isn't clear. I believe many people do like having things separated, even if it isn't perfect.

    It is even sometimes unclear if something is a bug or an intentional change (a good example would be the disappearance of closed captioning why fast playing. At first, it seems to be a bug- an omission or malfunction of a previous feature, until we are told by Margret that it's removal was an intentional design change to deal with other, unspecified needs)
     
  11. jsmeeker

    jsmeeker Notable Member TCF Club

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    I pretty much agree. I think the lack of a filter in the guide is a negative. I don't know if it is a bug or of it's intentional, but I am not quite sure how anyone would think of it as a positive. So, to me, that goes to the negative side no matter what the reason behind it.

    The way there banner/info works? That's more of a personal preference. I would prefer to be able to cycle through the styles of "medium" and "full" like I could before, but it's just a personal preference.
     
  12. PedjaR

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    Sometimes when I delete a show and it returns me to My Shows, instead of being around the spot where the deleted recording was, I find myself all teh way down on the Recently Deleted line. That did not happen until 20.2., then it happened every time for a few days, then it did not happen at all for a few days, then it started happening again. Weird. Anybody else noticed this?
     
  13. StarkNaked

    StarkNaked New Member

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    Yes, I have had that happen. Confused the heck out of me till I figured out what happened. It was one of those " what just happened" moments.
     
  14. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    I have had a lot of strange deletion experiences in the HDUI. Today, I tried to delete a suggested program 12 times and it simply would not delete. I tried every way I could think of and most of the time it would "think" about it for several seconds or more (one time I waited 30 seconds for the "X" to go away and it to disappear before trying something else). I then just decided to try and play the damn thing- it came up and said it could not play it because of some video problem with it, so I tried yet again and then it played, and it was not a complete program. Seems it had recorded some "blank", non-existent stuff, then had video. This must have confused it. Once I exited it that, it would finally delete.

    Now THAT is strange.
     
  15. gteague

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    +1, yes it does.

    and there is also no guarantee that there will be a show in the showcase section suitable for use. the only one i had found that worked was the morning joe promotion and it has disappeared lately.

    /guy
     
  16. jsmeeker

    jsmeeker Notable Member TCF Club

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    I've seen some weird issues with one of the tuners changing to the lowest channel number i have in "Channels I receive". Not when I am watching Live TV.. But if I am watching a program from My Shows and then cut to Live TV, I sometimes wind up on channel 101, even if neither tuner was ever tuned to that channel.
     
  17. mnb

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    workaround 1 does not work.

    Once you press play in the SPS sequence, it breaks. At least in HDUI mode. I NEVER use SDUI unless there's no HDUI screen for it yet.
     
  18. mnb

    mnb New Member

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    HDUI mode
    at Main Tivo screen or in My Shows

    Before:
    Pressing the guide button took you to the channel shown in the video preview with the guide window up.

    Now:
    Pressing the guide button in those situations does nothing. Not even an error bonk sound.
     
  19. compnurd

    compnurd New Member

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    Pressing Guide is both of those situations takes me to the guide?
     
  20. mnb

    mnb New Member

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    Odd, I tested it again just now. I'm not using my usual remote. I'm using one from a Series 2 because I dropped my Premiere's remote into a cup of coffee and it doesn't work anymore. =( I think I may have been pressing Info instead of Guide. I can't repro the issue by pressing guide, with either a recorded show or live TV playing. But I can if I press Info (which is not an issue, IMO).

    So I'd ignore this issue unless others report it as well. Sorry... :eek:
     

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