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The 20.2 changelog thread

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by crxssi, Jan 8, 2012.

  1. wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Ziphead

    Aug 2, 2003
    Yes, the second core was enabled in 14.9, as far as we know.
  2. mumpower

    mumpower New Member

    Jul 23, 2003
    My first TiVo was the original 14 hour unit, so I am well aware of service constraints. This instance is different in that it is (for me) the first time that primary functionality is being removed from the device. After the basic recording of shows, there is *nothing* I use more than FF1 with closed captioning. And I have been doing so for about 13 years now. If that functionality is going to be permanently disabled, what I am asking as a user is whether there is a way to hard-lock on 14.9 or another update in order to prevent the elimination of what I consider to be core TiVo functionality. If there is not yet, I am stating that there needs to be.

    The problem when new programmers join a technology company is that they oftentimes do not have the full awareness of product usage that long time customers have. As such, they are ordinarily open to feedback about what is important. And I for one consider the closed captioning thing to be functionality that prevents a TiVo from being a TiVo if it is removed. Your mileage and I'm certain several others on this board may vary, but if I had known TiVo was taken this away, I never would have purchased an Elite. The TiVo is much less useful to me without it.

    I'm going to express this here where Margaret is thoughtfully reading (your dedication to your job is sincerely appreciated) and I'm also going to lodge a complaint with TiVo customer service. The entire point of updating software is to make a unit better. There is nothing in the 20.x update that could counter the loss of FF1 closed captioning for me. Glancing over a few threads, I am not the only one who feels this way, either. That makes all the more important that the people who agree speak their peace before this mistake becomes codified.
  3. lessd

    lessd Well-Known Member

    Jan 23, 2005
    Another change I noticed in V20.2 is not only is trick play not enabled on a non sub TiVo but programs that were recorded before the TiVo went un-subbed will play back but you can't use fast forward, rewind, pause, or any of the skip forward modes. So I guess TiVo wants to make a un-subbed TiVo less useful than before. I don't blame TiVo as the box at less than $100 with a 320Tb drive is a real give away if one does not purchase the service.
  4. jpcamaro70

    jpcamaro70 New Member

    Nov 23, 2011
    I don't know about the vast majority...For me, A larger buffer is a huge deal.
  5. lessd

    lessd Well-Known Member

    Jan 23, 2005
    Things like a larger buffer should not be in this Thread as that not a change in V20.2, many other Threads would be the place to post about changes you would like; say this Thread http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=481297

    IMHO we should keep this Thread to changes that V20.2 actually have as much as possible.
  6. mooneb75

    mooneb75 New Member

    Aug 5, 2008
    a 60 min buffer would be great - I'd like it to maintain on a channel change too... meaning, not clear when I change the channel.
  7. Leon WIlkinson

    Leon WIlkinson TiVo Gone Wild

    Feb 13, 2000
    TiVo Town
    Just got the update, found a bug

    If in Live Tv and in 480p/i format and go to TiVo Central(which is 720P) it will not display/draw correctly, It does work sometimes correctly.
  8. mnb

    mnb Member

    Sep 15, 2004
    Cannot enter SPS codes while info banner is up. Hitting play dismisses the info and brings up the play bar. Hitting the 2nd select brings up the mini guide. The numbers at that point do nothing and hitting the final select changes the channel to the default selected show on the mini guide.
  9. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

    Jan 23, 2006
    This has come up several times. Workarounds:
    a. Hit Info first to bring up the info banner
    b. Now enter SPS code while the banner is still up

    2. Play back a showcase video and you can then enter SPS code as normal while it's playing.

    3. Switch to SDUI to enter SPS codes
  10. xander777

    xander777 Member

    Feb 23, 2010
    Ok, now that both of my Premieres have 20.2, when can I expect streaming to be activated? I can still only transfer shows, not stream.
  11. Heron

    Heron New Member

    Aug 15, 2008
    CRXSSI, thank you for this thread. I haven't been paying attention and woke this morning to changed TiVo displays. (It would be nice if they had included a message advising of the update when they did it.) I figured out it must have been a software update and of course came here to figure out what was going on. So thanks for all your effort to detail the changes.

    One point -- in HDUI, when I bring up the guide, it minimizes the live TV picture to the small display in the corner and takes over the rest of the screen with the guide instead of displaying on top of the picture the way it used to do. Is that the only option for guide display (besides the TiVo live guide and grid guide)? If so, I'd put that down as a negative, but that's just my personal preference.
  12. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

    Apr 5, 2010
    I believe Margret said the Monday after this coming Monday it will be switched on for everyone.
  13. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

    Apr 5, 2010
    You are welcome

    There is currently no option to change the preview window on the HDUI guide. It cannot be made the background, and it cannot be turned off. You can see this in
  14. philt56

    philt56 Member

    Aug 21, 2008
    So my Premiere got the updated HD guide last nite. Seems a little buggy...

    If I bring up the guide while watching live tv, it begins with the current channel. If I bring it up while watching a recorded show, it starts at channel 1. I'd rather it go to the current live channel like before. Ch 1 is on-demand followed by all the SD OTA channels for me on comcast, so it's a pain to always have to key in a channel to get to my preferred channels.

    Also I have a manual repeated entry that records the 10pm news m-f. Yeah I could have used a season pass but I don't. It is not marked on the grid with a check or double check mark. So if I go to one of those entries and hit record, it doesn't ask "record as planned" (it is in the todo list) like it used to, but wants to record it, I tried record for the heck of it and it made a duplicate recording entry in the to do list.

    Also I hit record on a grid entry and after it processed it, it went back to ch 1 again! Remembered the date and time where I was at but not the channel. I must have done this while paused on a recorded show; works ok when watching live tv.
  15. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

    Apr 5, 2010 /
  16. dsnotgood

    dsnotgood New Member

    Aug 25, 2010
    you CAN turn off the preview window if you want. I saw it in settings somewhere. Awesome!

    EDIT..I lied...nevermind. It looks like its only for when you hit the TiVo button for my shows. Still ..its nice to be able to turn off preview window when I am looking for a show to watch
  17. windracer

    windracer joined the 10k club

    Jan 3, 2003
    St. Pete, FL
    Rather than going through the settings all the time, you can use the Slow button to toggle the window on and off in TiVo Central.
  18. I_am_not_randy

    I_am_not_randy Member

    Oct 29, 2010
    I am assumming this thread is the clearing house for bugs with the revision 20 release.

    There was a bug introduced on 14.9 in which wishlists results (say for a number of talk shows), would be very slow to navigate with the channel down button (the please wait would pop up between each program)

    This has NOT been fixed by the new release (it was like the first or second thing I tried).

    Overall though I am please with the speed increases in the HD interface. It is fast enough now that I can actually use it. Previously it was so slow for me it rendered it unuseable.
  19. jsmeeker

    jsmeeker Notable Member TCF Club

    Apr 2, 2001
    Just got 20.2 yesterday.. I have played around with it some and have read through the change log portions that deal with the HDUI. Two points/issues/comments.

    1) I noticed that I could not figure out how to filter in the new HD guide. I see the change log entry notes that this feature went away. Eeek!! Somewhere a few pages back, i saw a post that said it would come back at some point, but not ETA. Maybe that entry can be updated to indicate this? Again, it's item but I am not exactly sure that post # talks about it coming back

    2) the new banner/information display. How do I bring up the medium banner? Previously, it was easy to toggle between the three different views. The "mini" one that showed just the channel number and name and logo in the upper right hand corner. The "Medium", which ran the width of the screen and gave more information (like the actual name of the program), and the "full" which gave even more options and then let you select options like CC, audio, what the other tuner was recording, etc. Is there not a way to toggle? Before, the directional arrows let me do that. But now, it seems the only way to get the "medium" is when you actually change channels while watching Live TV.
  20. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

    Apr 5, 2010
    Yes, I do recall that issue, although for some reason it didn't make the last changelog (probably an oversight). It was even in the thread. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8871667#post8871667

    I will add to to the carryover.

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