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The 20.2 changelog thread

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by crxssi, Jan 8, 2012.

  1. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    I am a recent user of the HDUI, so forgive this question- is that a new behavior? Audio dropouts while switching from the TiVo menus to live (or the other way around) wouldn't seem all that unusual to me (since it is such a major change). HOWEVER, when going in and out of the new HDUI guide, there is no audio interruption, and it is pretty fast too.

    But I cannot confirm your observation about audio dropping out when moving from one HD HDUI screen to another HD HDUI screen/menu. I tried everything I could, and never had any audio dropouts. Does anyone else have any audio dropouts at the exact time of changing from from HD HDUI screen to another?
     
  2. sbiller

    sbiller Active Member

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    Yes. Its a new behavior. The audio used to drop out between every HDUI screen transition. Maybe someone else can confirm.
     
  3. wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Ziphead

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    This has always worked for me, but only during Live TV, not on playback of recordings. It used (?) to be that the TiVo would only record one soundtrack.

    Some other comments on 20.2 here.
     
  4. jkudlacz

    jkudlacz New Member

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    Yes I have the same issue with my TIVO, this may be related to my SETUP, I am running HDMI cable from TIVO into my Surround Sound system and then from that unit HDMI to my TV.

    I have a SONY BDV-IS1000 and my TV is SONY XBR-52HX909.
     
  5. jkudlacz

    jkudlacz New Member

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    I think I found a possible bug.

    I wanted to record the new show The Firm but I totally forgot it was on, fortunately one of my tuners was on that channel so I decided to go pull up Guide and click record and I selected a season pass for the show.

    I though that this would record the whole show unfortunately, it only grabbed 1hour and 31 minutes of it, instead of the whole 2 hours and at that point show was running only for 60 min or so.
     
  6. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    The live buffer is only 30 min (on each "tuner"). So if you were 60 min into the show before you told it to record a 120 min program, it would only be able to capture 90 minutes of it. The first 30 min were simply not available. Not a bug, just the way it works with TiVo.
     
  7. jkudlacz

    jkudlacz New Member

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    Cool thanks, I wish there was ability to increase it, to maybe 60min or 2 hours.
     
  8. L David Matheny

    L David Matheny Active Member

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    That's been mentioned before. Certainly in this day of multi-terabyte drives, a 30-minute buffer seems ridiculously small. They should at least bump it to 60. And a user option would be better, of course.
     
  9. mumpower

    mumpower New Member

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    "1.2.3 Closed captions no longer appear on the screen while using 1xFF+ (first fast play) while in the SDUI or HDUI. Margret later explained it was due to technical reasons and implied this feature will not return."

    Is there a way we can reject and/or undo updates? This is a seminal usage of the TiVo for me. I'd rather have 14.9 or whatever indefinitely than a new update that removes this functionality, which is critical to how I watch programs.
     
  10. teewow

    teewow New Member

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    How about Amazon Prime Instant Videos ?
     
  11. texino

    texino New Member

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    I was about to ask the same thing.
     
  12. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    Sorry, I don't think it is possible. When you buy a TiVo, you are buying into a service too. It is not just a box. Game consoles, Blu-Ray players, smart phones, many TV's, etc are that way now, too. A "connected" device can be changed by the manufacturer in ways the end user might not like.
     
  13. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    Nope.

    And according the what I have read for the next big update in the Spring, it will probably not show then, either.
     
  14. slice1900

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    If it weren't for the need to keep it connected to pick up the latest schedules, I'd have unplugged mine from the Internet to keep it on 14.9. But unfortunately I got the update to 20.2 today, even though I sure as hell did not want it!

    Since I received the 14.9 update last fall my Tivo started rebooting a few times a week, whereas previously it was relatively stable and only did that only once couple months. The 20.2 update made things even worse for me, even if it is now 100% stable. Basically in the last two updates, as far as I'm aware Tivo has not added any functionality or fixed any problems I care about, but they made it significantly worse for me and my usage.

    This is a big difference between owning a Tivo and most other products capable of updates. With my iPhone I am running iOS 5.0.0, even though I've had a notifier that 5.0.1 has been available for two months. For me not updating it was a deliberate choice because I have a 4S that hasn't experienced battery life issues as some have, and some people who had no issues on 5.0.0 reported having some on 5.0.1. Apple gave me a choice Tivo does not believe I deserve.

    This experience will definitely make me think twice about ever buying another Tivo.
     
  15. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I found a bug in the SDUI...

    1) Select a program from My Shows and look at it's description.

    2) Back out to My Shows, move to a different show on the list and click Play on the remote to start playing.

    3) Use back to exit playback of that show.

    When you get back to My Shows the program you selected in step #1 will be highlighted and not the program you were just playing.

    It really confused me as to what was happening the first few times, but once I nailed down how to repeat it I see what's happening now. It seems the selection flag TiVo uses to determine which show to highlight isn't getting set properly when you play something directly via the Play button rather then selecting it and picking Play from the menu.

    Dan
     
  16. tomhorsley

    tomhorsley Active Member

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    I just got 20.2 sometime this afternoon while I was at work, and the main thing I notice is that it is slower. "My Shows" has a big pause which wasn't there before while it is deciding how to draw the list of my recordings at the top (the hulu and amazon icons and wot-not come up pretty fast at the bottom). There is also a much longer pause after I hit the "Guide" button before the new guide actually manages to display. It may look a little better, but since speed was always my primary problem with the Premiere, getting slower doesn't seem like an improvement.
     
  17. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Some times it can take a while for a new version to settle down. There can be a lot of background processing going on right after an upgrade. Give it until tomorrow and if it still seems slow reboot it.

    Dan
     
  18. lonewoolf47

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    I strongly agree. This has been my #1 beef with TiVo. Whenever there is a new software update the first thing I look for is an update to at least a 60 minute buffer. I really do not understand their refusal to do so. :confused:
     
  19. kwajr

    kwajr New Member

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    i think the vast majority of us would not see a need for it as most of us do not watch live tv and if i turn it on in the middle of something i usally just have it record the next time it airs
     
  20. grafton

    grafton New Member

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    Thanks to my crappy power service, I can say my Tivo boot in half the time it used to. before (not sure what version) it was a guaranteed 10min wait for the tivo to get to the home screen from a power disruption, today including the intro video it was 5 minutes!!!

    is it possible that the 2nd core is enabled? halving the boot time is pretty cool either way
     

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