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The 20.2.1 changelog thread

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by crxssi, May 10, 2012.

  1. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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  2. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    Since it is just for one show, and works on SD (as they say), then it is probably an unusual error in TiVo's show/search info database. I would not consider that a bug (other than the whole design of being dependent on their servers instead of having that data local).
     
  3. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    I agree. IMNSHO, it is a design flaw. Also possibly a problem with the servers themselves.
     
  4. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    I do have an actual new bug to report. Or maybe a couple - Transfer Show "from beginning" not working. It transfers from the pause point, even if you select "Transfer from beginning".

    Investigation of this has led to another problem. While the source of the transfer doesn't matter for the basic problem, if the source is another Premiere, the "Pause Point" can be the point at which you stopped streaming. I had a program I had been streaming and saw this behavior.

    So I tried streaming from the beginning and that apparently didn't reset the pause point unless I got a little way into it. So I went about a minute, exited the stream, and tried the transfer again. The transfer appeared to start but nothing actually got transferred. Play simply had the "Waiting for ..." message. Transfer LED went off and there was no sign of the show in the local NPL nor the todo list. I do however have a "ghost" transfer. Any new transfer requests from any source get queued up waiting for the ghost transfer to complete.

    I have pulled the plug on the Ethernet switch to which the TiVo is connected and am doing a soft boot, hoping that this will exorcise the ghost. If not, next step will be a hard boot.

    Soft boot worked. Plugged the switch back in and a transfer (from computer via pyTivo) I had queued up started.

    I looked in the "Recently Deleted" folder and the show that caused all of the problems was there. I recovered it and started to play. Got a brief flash on the screen then got this message:
    Any subsequent attempt to play it gets the same message immediately.

    If TiVo inc. needs more data or for me to investigate further, let me know. In this thread, via PM, or you can get my contact information from my TiVo.com account. Same ID. :)
     
  5. morac

    morac Cat God

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    There's been a problem for a few builds where if you try to transfer the same recording twice in a row, it won't transfer the second time. I'm not sure when that bug was introduced, but it's been there awhile. If you want to transfer the same recording multiple times, you need to transfer a different recording in between (you can cancel that transfer once it starts). Transfer recording A, then B, then A will work, but transfer recording A then show A will not. That explains why your second transfer didn't happen.

    The Premiere always transferring from the pause point is a different bug, the above just makes testing it tricky.
     
  6. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    No, it doesn't. The transfer actually started, it just failed and left a ghost transfer. I couldn't transfer anything until I got rid of the "ghost" transfer. And it is back. I cannot transfer anything. Trying a hard boot now. No time for much else until later tonight.
     
  7. morac

    morac Cat God

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    Normally when there is a transfer problem it requires a hard boot of both boxes at the same time.
     
  8. labryadae

    labryadae New Member

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    Anyone have an update on this? Last night I saw a few shows first aired in early July STILL marked as "NEW" in the guide. Shows from 5 weeks ago, to me, are not NEW. Would it help to open a trouble ticket with TIVO? Do customer complaints have any impact? It shouldn't be that hard to write '...if first aired date > today() +7 OR Today() -7 then NOT "NEW" flag...'.
     
  9. jrtroo

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    Tivo is looking to have an update this fall, but when that is we do not know. I completely ignore that flag, it could mean almost anything and does not use the same logic as season passes. Is it the first run? Recently recorded? Both? Something I never recorded before? It even shows up for some items from pyTivo.

    When would this even be useful?
     
  10. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    The "NEW" flag in the guide seems to be set for episodes that will be picked up by an FRO SP unless previously recorded.

    The one in the NPL - haven't a clue what criteria that uses.
     
  11. NorthAlabama

    NorthAlabama tabasco rules

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    i have a similar issue. when navigating hd menus, as the video window "flickers" during a transition, i hear a loud pop or crackle when the video window reappears, or during a gui to full video transition. that's the only time there's any sound issue. with the video menu disabled, there's no popping.

    i can end the popping by disabeling, then enabeling, the video window, but the popping always returns.

    my video is high speed hdmi, my audio is optical cable, sony home theater receiver, tivo premiere xl.

    any suggestions? i think this may be hd gui related, or sony optical related (based on the other forum posts for S3).
     
  12. Stevesreed

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    I would agree this folder should be optional.

    We've come a long way since the first days of OTA HDTV, and every show I record is in HD now, so the folder is just unwanted, useless clutter.
     
  13. Bollo

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    Content Ratings do not seem to be available on the HD interface. This is the data where it says why a movie got it rating, V for Violence, N for nudity... This data is still there in the program description and Info page in the SD interface. Am I missing something?
     
  14. Bollo

    Bollo New Member

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    Is there a short cut method to toggle between the HD and SD menus? I saw a post that indicated ThuDn - ThuUp - Pause - Pause would work, but it does not work for me.
     
  15. morac

    morac Cat God

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    That's not a toggle. It simply disables the HD UI.
     
  16. knarf829

    knarf829 New Member

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    Found a couple bugs in the SD menus. Don't see that they've been mentioned before:

    1. Transferred a couple of episodes of a show with "&" in the show title from a Series 3 to a Premiere XL4, and the folder name is blank for these shows. Don't know if this is or is not also the case for recorded shows with "&" in the title. The folder shows up fine in the HD menu.

    2. After watching a recorded show, there is sometimes a brief flash of live TV before returning to the show list

    I can also vouch for "Transfer From Beginning" not working under any circumstances. If a show on the Series3 is in "Resume Play" state, it will only transfer from the pause point.
     
  17. astrohip

    astrohip Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    What's weird is it just started doing this. I first noticed this within the last few days. And it is very noticeable.
     
  18. CoxInPHX

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