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The 14.9.2.2 changelog thread

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by crxssi, Dec 15, 2011.

  1. lafos

    lafos Active Member

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    A new negative is the behavior when deleting season passes in the SP manager. After the delete, the highlight goes to the 1st SP, instead of the previous SP as before. The S3 and HD do not have this behavior, and I'm sure the Premiere didn't, either.
     
  2. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    Very much sounds like an annoying bug. Any confirmations out there? (I don't have any to delete!!) ((I guess I could make one))
     
  3. Joe Siegler

    Joe Siegler New Member

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    This did NOT happen to me. Season pass manager stayed where it was.

    I did notice however, that a new season pass defaults to keeping 10 episodes; used to be just 5.
     
  4. TishTash

    TishTash New Member

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    I guess that could be the reason(s). The thing is, before the upgrade, there was no "please wait...." delay between summary pages. Afterwards, there is a delay between each key press: same TiVo, same hard drives, same contents--just different system software.
     
  5. TerpBE

    TerpBE Go Terps!

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    I have a wishlist that covers late night talk shows. Every week or so, I go to it, select the first one so I can see its description (i.e. upcoming guests), and hit channel down to scroll through all of the shows to determine if anybody worth recording is coming up.

    Before 14.9.2.2, it would go from entry to entry with no problem. Now, each time I go down it gives me a "Please wait" clock for a second or two.

    I assume this is the same issue described above.
     
  6. Series3Sub

    Series3Sub Active Member

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    And I find the seemingly tiny bug really annoying.
     
  7. TishTash

    TishTash New Member

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    Btw, another issue that I don't think has been mentioned: Before 14.9.2.2, manually recording a period of time labeled the recording the name of the program at the BEGINNING of the time period being recorded. When the confirmation is displayed, the show at the END of the time period is implied to be the label.

    "Don't you believe it...." The recording does end up being labeled as the EARLIER recording, like it should, since the main reason for manual recording is to correct overflow programming (esp. sports).
     
  8. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    Yes I am able to delete transferred MPEG4 videos as well as TiVo recordings transferred from TiVo Desktop.
     
  9. DavidTigerFan

    DavidTigerFan No, not Detroit. TCF Club

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    I've been reading this thread for a few days now trying to figure out what you guys were talking about with the changes to the 30sec "scan". I recently had some troubles with my premiere and had to restore from my stock drive. I now had this "scan". It's annoying so I remembered the "select-Play-Select-3-0-Select" code and boom I was back to instant 30 sec skips. Just FYI.
     
  10. whompus60

    whompus60 New Member

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    I have always wondered why these videos become copy protected when they are transferred? I have noticed when I transfer videos taken with my camcorder to the tivo they become copy protected. Can not transfer them to another tivo nor back to the pc. Not really a problem just a wonderment, with them being mine and not protected in any other way.
     
  11. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    Copy Protection? I've not seen any from the MPEG4 videos I've transferred. I can transfer them from TiVo Desktop to one of my Premieres, and then I can transfer it from that box to another Premiere.
     
  12. CoxInPHX

    CoxInPHX COX Communications

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    Not new to 14.9.2, But I also have wondered why everything I upload to the Premiere using pyTivo is also copy protected and not transferable.
     
  13. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    TiVo Desktop auto transfers and pyTivo "pushes" all go through mind.tivo.com web server and any such transfers have always been copy protected. Since going through that server is the only way to get H.264 natively transferred to TiVos all mpeg4 videos on TiVos are currently copy protected. Transfers not going through the web server (pulls) always end up as mpeg2 on TiVos and transcoded to mpeg2 if necessary, and those are not marked copy protected.
     
  14. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    I wonder if TiVo implemented a new fail-safe?
    ''If the Premiere can't determine copy protection status on transferred programs/videos, it defaults to marking them as copy protected''
    (e.g. the videos have missing or incorrect data in the CCI information field of the meta data).
     
  15. soarng

    soarng New Member

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    I use thd SDUI and these are the changes I noticed thay may have already been mentioned:

    • Font size in program description seems a tad bigger. The full title of some of my wishlist items no longer displays.
    • Did notice the performance improvement in scrolling the guide. Very nice.
    • Also noticed the fourth FF to stop forwarding and "zoom/skip" when holding FF down is gone.
    • Rebooting is definitely faster. Yay!
    • Someone else mentioned they noticed the green check mark is gone in the display of shows that are set to record. Same here.
    • And the "Please Wait..." when scrolling down lists of shows while viewing "program description" is there. Super annoying.
    • Also, someone mentioned the lowest season pass default is now 10 episodes. Yup, I see that, too.

    Here are two that I've not seen mentioned:

    • I have some wishlists set up to search for "host" name. This no longer works. Example: Host name is Jeff Probst. Setting the wishlist to Actor: Probst, Jeff would bring up all shows he was mentioned in, whether as host (ie. Survivor) or as a guest on a talk show. Now the wishlist only displays shows where he is specifically listed as "Actor" (not host) or is named in the program description. I've tested this several times and it happens with any show that has a "host" that is not in the Actor list or description.
    • Search no longer offers me the option to search by category. Tivo website (tivo.com/mytivo/howto/getthemostoutoftv/Searchbytitle.html) shows that SDUI allows this, but it is now gone. I have the option to "search by title", and it immediately goes into the alphabet grid instead of allowing me to select a category.
     
  16. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    Then that must be what is going on with mine. I did notice when the MPEG 4 videos get transferred from TiVo Desktop the transfer is slower since it was doing some processing. I guess it was transcoding them to MPEG2 then.

    I though the S3/S4 boxes were capbale of playing Native MPEG4? If so why is it transcoded to MPEG2?
     
  17. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    HMO pulls have always been mpeg2 only even for S3/S4 series which can play back mp4 with H.264 video and AC3 or AAC audio. It's something TiVo has never updated. As I mentioned you can have S3/S4 series accept mp4 video by using TiVo Desktop auto transfers or pyTivo pushes, or using streambaby.
     
  18. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    There is no one such thing as "native mpeg4". The Premiere can, indeed, play video that is encoded in h.264, but it has to be in the correct combination with: audio codec, audio bitrate, video bitrate, video resolution, and certain settings in the container (in this case, mpeg4). All the factors have to be right for the TiVo to play the video, native. Otherwise, it must be transcoded, and that is typically to an MPEG2 codec and container (with whatever audio, etc). PyTiVo, for example, knows which few things the Premiere can handle and will automatically transcode anything else.

    It is disappointing that the Premiere doesn't handle more various types of data.
     
  19. Joe Siegler

    Joe Siegler New Member

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    Found another one. If you search by title, you used to be able to put in the number 0 and then scroll through everything that is in the entire listing, all the way through Z. I have OTA only, do that can be realistically done if one wants to.

    Now, if you put in a search term, you cannot use that search as a start point for a scroll through the listings. Say, if you search for just the letter D, you can ONLY see stuff that starts with "D". Once you reach the end of the "D" listings, you can't scroll into "E". :(

    Also, your search term is in yellow, and the rest is not. Used to be all letters were white.
     
  20. forum1

    forum1 TiVo user since 2000

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    I don't have a tuning adapter, just a CableCARD, and got the "Problem with the signal on this cable channel. Trying again." message on one of my two Premiere units. The other unit had no problems with the same channels. Changing channels on the confused Premiere did nothing and I finally told the unit to reboot. Then the channels tuned in just fine. So far I have only seen this issue the one time.
     

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