1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

The 14.9.2.2 changelog thread

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by crxssi, Dec 15, 2011.

  1. Dec 20, 2011 #81 of 189
    TishTash

    TishTash New Member

    336
    0
    Jan 23, 2008
    Merrick, NY
    To all who inquired: In the SDUI, after HAVING SELECTED a show from a list of either a My Shows folder or a list of upcoming episodes--thereby showing its full-page details--thereafter pressing the up- or down-arrow would scan through the FULL-SCREEN DETAILS of each show in the list.

    Now, at least for me, there is a second or two "Please wait...." delay between show's full-screen details entries. (This is NOT the same as navigating along the one-line entries of each show.) Again, not a dealbreaker, but a bit annoying when one wants to quickly flip through each episode's details on the list.

    (Ironically, quickly scanning up and down the list of show details before 14.9--without the delay--would occasionally result in the queue repeating itself every few entries. It gave me a sense of deja vu, or the illusion that the same episode was being repeated. Maybe the delay protects against this?)
     
  2. Dec 20, 2011 #82 of 189
    crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

    2,791
    0
    Apr 5, 2010
    I am still unable to replicate what you describe. I think you are also missing a step. In SDUI, when you select an already recorded video (from anywhere) and see the summary details, you must press "info"button to see a full-screen of all details. In that screen, I can page up or down (chan up/down) instantly. No time in that or leading up to it or in it, do I see any "Please wait..." dialogs.

    If I translate what you mean to viewing the summary details of a program, then pressing up/down arrows to scroll to the previous or next video's summary details, that is instant also, with no "Please wait..." dialogs.
     
  3. Dec 20, 2011 #83 of 189
    TishTash

    TishTash New Member

    336
    0
    Jan 23, 2008
    Merrick, NY
    Yes, I meant summary details, not the info screen. If no one else has this problem, I'm not sure why I do, more so since I have it across three TiVo's all of which are now 14.9.2.2.
     
  4. Dec 21, 2011 #84 of 189
    moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

    11,141
    31
    Jan 23, 2006
    Mission...
    You are not alone:
    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=480491
    Looks like a new "feature" of the new software.
     
  5. Dec 21, 2011 #85 of 189
    DavidTigerFan

    DavidTigerFan No, not Detroit. TCF Club

    11,950
    47
    Aug 18, 2001
    Charleston, SC
    Uggh, for some reason my premiere has been rebooting with freezes after sending commands through the remote. Not sure what to do, is it because of the new software or is the HDD failing?
     
  6. Dec 21, 2011 #86 of 189
    crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

    2,791
    0
    Apr 5, 2010
    That doesn't appear to be the same function,however. The fact that a "please wait" might appear could be similar, but it is a different function (and one I have not tested).

    Do they have external drives? Do they have upgraded drives? Do they have tons and tons of pre-recorded programs on them?

    (Mine do not, do not, and do not. Just trying to find something common)
     
  7. Dec 21, 2011 #87 of 189
    crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

    2,791
    0
    Apr 5, 2010
    Need more information/details.
     
  8. Dec 21, 2011 #88 of 189
    tomhorsley

    tomhorsley Active Member

    1,167
    4
    Jul 22, 2010
    I was just watching live TV, and TiVo said it had a scheduled recording coming up and wanted to change the channel on me. This is just the one recording, not two at overlapping times. Is this new since 14.9.2.2? I don't remember it asking me this before unless it was starting the 2nd simultaneous recording. Even if it isn't new, why on earth would it make up its mind ahead of time which tuner it desperately wanted to use? Why not just pick the unused one and leave me alone?
     
  9. Dec 21, 2011 #89 of 189
    crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

    2,791
    0
    Apr 5, 2010
    Because it might have decided to record a suggestion on the other tuner. And please keep in mind that when you are watching "live" TV (which you seem to indicate), the TiVo doesn't know there is anyone there. The message is the TiVo's way of determining if anyone really is watching live TV and warning them it has plans.
     
  10. Dec 21, 2011 #90 of 189
    forum1

    forum1 TiVo user since 2000

    66
    0
    May 24, 2011
    Yup. I guess someone at TiVo had enough free cycles to work on this gem. Of course in doing so they also removed text regarding the recording being a suggestion vs. a scheduled recording. It's more cryptic now, with the change in verb (wants vs. needs) being the only telltale as to rather the channel change is merely for a suggestion or not.

    Ref: http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8848366#post8848366
    See posts 19-22.
     
  11. Dec 21, 2011 #91 of 189
    wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Ziphead

    10,365
    22
    Aug 2, 2003
    No.
     
  12. Dec 21, 2011 #92 of 189
    forum1

    forum1 TiVo user since 2000

    66
    0
    May 24, 2011
    It's been a long time so I forget if it worked exactly this way, but with the Series 1 and possibly Series 2 DirecTiVos I thought it used logic for suggestion recording based on when the unit was put into Standby mode. If the unit was in Standby it would record suggestions on both tuners, if free. If the unit was active is would only record suggestions on one tuner, if free, assuming the other was actively being watched for live TV. Thus, with the unit active (not in Standby), suggestions would not be recorded at the same time a single scheduled show was recording, in order to reduce prompts to the live TV viewer. Am I remembering wrong? I guess if anyone can remember being prompted to change the channel for a suggestion, or for a scheduled recording while the other tuner was recording a suggestion, on the tuner they were using for live TV this would answer the question.

    I do wish the TiVo Premier had an option for detecting if the display is on or not (easy via HDMI). With this option enabled (Standby on display off? Or maybe don’t standby and just go into “viewer away mode”) it could trigger other options, including the ability to disable the live TV buffering while the display is off and the ability to only use one tuner for suggestions, and always use that tuner first for scheduled recordings, while the display is on. Even without detecting the display state, the other options could be made available based on when the TiVo is in Standby mode.
     
  13. Dec 21, 2011 #93 of 189
    crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

    2,791
    0
    Apr 5, 2010
    I never put my Premiere in standby. It records suggestions on both tuners at the same time, very frequently. I don't recall it being any different with my previous TiVo models.

    I just don't see it as any big deal. I have a DVR precisely because I do NOT want to watch live TV, and very rarely do. And in the rare case I am watching "live" TV, being asked on an even rarer occasion if it is OK to take the tuner is just hardly worth any thought on my part.
     
  14. Dec 21, 2011 #94 of 189
    forum1

    forum1 TiVo user since 2000

    66
    0
    May 24, 2011
    Yeah. I also never put my Premiere in Standby, but mainly because there is no hard button on the front to do so and the menu option that was on the TiVo Central menu is now in the Settings & messages menu. The extra button presses to select Standby every time are just not worth it to me.

    I used to put the Series 1 and Series 2 DirecTiVos into Standby all the time. As best I can recall, the reason I put the old units in Standby was 1. They recorded more suggestions, 2. The red record LED would turn off (Series 1 only, Series 2 stayed on even when in Standby) as well as the green power LED. This was desirable because I don't think there was an option to turn the LEDs off completely, like there was/is with the Series 3 and 4. Again, this is all recollections from way back when, so no promises on accuracy.

    Yes. I also noticed this with the Premiere when first I started using mine. It struck me as odd the first time I got a channel change prompt when I knew the other tuner should be free. Maybe someone distinctly remembers what the behavior on the Series 1 and Series 2 DirecTiVo units was.

    To each his own. I enjoy watching some TV live, especially if it's something like CNN and I have it on as background to whatever other tasks I am doing in my home office. I really don’t like being prompted for what I consider frivolous channel changes, but I also would like to have suggestions recorded when the tuner not showing live TV is free. Right now the only option I have is to disable suggestion recording completely if I want to avoid frivolous channel change prompts.
     
  15. Dec 22, 2011 #95 of 189
    Joe Siegler

    Joe Siegler New Member

    780
    0
    May 10, 2000
    Garland, TX
    Two more things.

    1) The loading of my daily data packet is stupid faster. I only have OTA, so my packets are smaller, but the entire loading takes about 2-3 mins. Used to take 5 or more before.

    2) if I have a piece of video I copied over from my desktop, I can no longer delete it from Now Playing with the clear button. I have to select the video, and pick the delete option from within there. That's definitely changed behaviour.
     
  16. Dec 22, 2011 #96 of 189
    aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

    19,176
    22
    Jan 31, 2002
    Northern...
    Is this with the SDUI? I'm running the HDUI and I can still hit clear to delete shows transferred from TiVo Desktop.
     
  17. Dec 22, 2011 #97 of 189
    BigJimOutlaw

    BigJimOutlaw Active Member

    2,780
    8
    Mar 21, 2004
    Not sure if this was mentioned by anybody else but my files sizes are being reported wrong on the SDUI Program Details page.

    For example an hour-long HD recording shows up as 0.05 GB. Only off by a factor of a hundred. :)
     
  18. Dec 22, 2011 #98 of 189
    Joe Siegler

    Joe Siegler New Member

    780
    0
    May 10, 2000
    Garland, TX
    It's SDUI. I'm stuck there, because my wife and I use KidZone. You can't have HDUI and use either Parental Controls or KidZone.

    Keep in mind, this isn't a "show". It's a random piece of net video. Downloaded it from Youtube.
     
  19. Dec 22, 2011 #99 of 189
    crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

    2,791
    0
    Apr 5, 2010
    I am not sure there is a difference. Any type of video is treated the same whether it is a 10 second clip or a 3 hour movie.
     
  20. Joe Siegler

    Joe Siegler New Member

    780
    0
    May 10, 2000
    Garland, TX
    I point that out, because copied net video like that doesn't have other options, hasn't in many revisions (like other episodes, future episodes, or whatnot). The TiVo must recognize this, otherwise it would display all the options for every piece of video, and it does not. So it must know it's different at least in SOME way.
     

Share This Page