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The changelog thread

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by crxssi, Dec 15, 2011.

  1. Joe01880

    Joe01880 I love my TiVo

    Feb 8, 2009
    I was refering to the other see thru guide
  2. mattmilw

    mattmilw New Member

    Jun 18, 2007
    I also received the No Data message, though all my guide data was present. What I was missing though was the next several days of the To Do List. The week after this week was there though. A forced connection fixed it.
  3. sbiller

    sbiller Active Member

    May 10, 2002
    Tampa, FL
    The SDUI My Central distortion bug is fixed in this latest release. This is where the screen resolution goes very low def and the TiVo guy gets fat only on the TiVo Central page.
  4. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

    Jan 31, 2002
    Yes, it's that way with some other screens too. I first noticed this with the Elite with 14.9.2. it makes it easier to see.
  5. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

    Jan 31, 2002
    Do most people use this guide? I tried that when I first got TiVos but then switched to the other guide since it shows much more info and is faster. It's been about ten years since I've used that guide. Is there still a huge difference in speed between the two.
  6. Joe Siegler

    Joe Siegler New Member

    May 10, 2000
    Garland, TX
    I always wondered about that myself. The guide with pictures above always struck me as existing because folks couldn't handle the more traditional "TiVo Guide".

    When I say traditional, I remember when TiVo's didn't have the grid guide. The TiVo fans at the time (of which I was one) thought it was the beginning of the dumbing down of the interface. I never use that blue grid guide. It's TiVo guide or bust for me.
  7. TerpBE

    TerpBE Go Terps!

    Jan 23, 2003
    Philly 'burbs
    When it pops up with the message saying:

    "The tuner you are not watching will change the channel at 6:00 to record 'Action News'" (or whatever the wording is)

    The text for the time and show title are now yellow instead of white.

    At least Tivo has their priorities straight. I know everyone was complaining about that one!
  8. pig_man

    pig_man Member

    Jun 4, 2009
  9. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

    Apr 5, 2010
    No, that is not what I was saying. I was trying to rapidly delete individual programs, not folders. Not sure how you read anything about deleting folders in my last post :)
  10. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

    Apr 5, 2010
    THAT could be the difference. I have been deleting things in the "Suggestions" folder, not the top folder. I will try to confirm.

    UPDATE: Confirmed. It only prevents rapid deletion while inside ANY group or ANY folder. Of course, that is likely the only time one would need rapid deletion. It does not display the "Deleting" message when in "My Shows" main directory. This is further proof that the reason they did this was to finally address the "this group is empty" bug.

    Will update my notes/first post
  11. Leon WIlkinson

    Leon WIlkinson TiVo Gone Wild

    Feb 13, 2000
    TiVo Town
    In HDUI all folder will show when you page through, where before folders around s-z would be missing.
  12. LoveOvit

    LoveOvit New Member

    Dec 16, 2011
    Toggle to Make the Timeline Quickly Disappear with the 14.9 "Upgrade" More Complicated!

    Update: See the Solution/Workaround posted above which works, until TiVo changes the functionality, to enable it on even new Tivos with no archived programming which still contains banner ads, or TiVo owners with no older banner ad recorded shows...for which I have no solution yet...
    The toggle for the super fast disappearance of the Timeline no longer works on 14.9. It worked on every TiVo model and every firmware version, including 14.8 The upgrade to 14.9 has now broken it!
    Select-Play-Select-Pause-Select no longer works to enable it!
    We are now stuck with a 3 second display of the timeline banner EVERY time you pause, 30 second skip, or 8 second rewind. It is a huge screen obstruction and one of the main reasons I stuck with TiVo over a cable DVR: I can disable it on TiVo---at least I could until the upgrade to 14.9!

    You have to manually press Clear every time to get rid of it, turning a clean interface for moving around within a program to a major pain in the tush, when you now have to press Clear after every Pause, 8 second rewind, and 30 second advance, to clear up the screen.

    If there is any text or crawling info in the programming at the bottom of the screen, it is hidden behind this annoying timeline display for a full 3 seconds, when you are trying to see the whole screen while selecting the segment you want to find.

    This is a definite HUGE step back!
    It can't be intentional.
    On 14.8, with all the annoying commercials on the timeline, you had to first see the commercials on every show, press the down key to get rid of them during pause, and then you could play the show and enter the above code sequence to get the timeline to disappear automatically within a 1/2 second, so it never got in your way.
    Now that TiVo has gotten rid of the commercials on the Timeline, due to complaints from all users, when they stripped out the commercials from the timeline, they also inadvertently stripped out the ability to use the above key toggle to get rid of the 3 second timeline display, which Tivo calls the "quick" banner display. The default "normal" display is 6 seconds or so.

    Please call Tivo and report this missing undocumented feature, and tell them how important it is that it be restored, before the full rollout of 14.9
    The rollout of 14.9 is only 25% complete and Tivo is very responsive to early reports of loss of functionality that have no benefit for Tivo, such as this one, as they have removed the commercials that were the only reason for prolonging the display of the timeline.

    The baby got thrown out with the bathwater this time, and I am sure it was unintentional, as THREE separate key toggles (the other TWO are below) have worked on all Tivos on all firmware versions for the last 10 years. There is no logical reason to break one of them between version 14.8 and version 14.9 on the Premiere units.

    On the bright side, the other two toggles still work on 14.9----

    Select-Play-Select-9-Select still works to display a digital timeline progress on playback, and the time of day, in the lower right of the screen, obviating the need for the analog timeline which it replaces, which used to be able to be quickly hidden with the now disabled toggle described above.

    Select-Play-Select-3-0-Select still enables the original version of the 30 second commercial skip, without having to see any of the content it is skipping. To advance to the ticks, simply start any of the levels of FF and then press the 30 second commercial skip button to advance in 15 minute increments. Same in reverse---any level of rewind, and press the 30 second commercial skip button to back up in 15 minute tick intervals.
  13. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

    Jan 31, 2002
    Just press play again. Doesn't that also remove it from the screen?
  14. JandS

    JandS Member

    Oct 1, 2010
    Audio drop-out time when going from watching live TV to pressing the Tivo Central screen is greatly reduced. The video window now displays much faster, too. Both improved by a (subjective) factor of about 3-4x.

    Audio dropout the reverse direction (Tivo Central back to live TV) is slightly improved but not as much.

    While toggling from Tivo Central to Live TV (using the 2 buttons on remote), the info screen flashes onscreen for a fraction of a second; don't recall whether it used to do this (perhaps just slower), but whatever, it's very annoying now.

    (Tivo connected via HDMI to Denon 4310CI. s/w, updated today).
  15. LoveOvit

    LoveOvit New Member

    Dec 16, 2011
    Solution for Update for Superfast Banner Clearing

    Further research here on the forum (fabulous resource!) has unearthed a workaround solution to re-enable this superfast banner clearing of the Playbar/Time line AFTER the Update, which gets rid of the annoying ads on the banner/playbar/timeline

    Find an older archived show with the banner ads still on the playbar. You must have at least one for this to work, that was recorded before Update. Play that show, pausing and unpausing it until the banner ad is seen. Then press down to remove the banner ad, press Play and then follow the Code key series: Select-Play-Select-Pause-Select

    Now, the green playbar will clear superfast, just like before on ALL programming without needing to go through this process on every single show separately, as before!

    Don't forget to save this show, with the banner ads, permanently (SAVE UNTIL I DELETE), to use again, after any reboot to re-enable the superfast clearing of the Playbar! You have to have at least one older show with the embedded banner ads for this to work!

    Enable the digital timeline and time in the lower right hand corner with Select-Play-Select-9-Select to replace the annoying analog banner timeline.

    TiVo Nirvana again...:)
  16. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

    May 1, 2006
    Dallas, TX
    FYI: This bug was found even with the S3 platform when there was no banner ads for a short time.

    If you don't have any shows with a banner ad, you can still activate S-P-S-Pause-S.*
    Start by playing a previously recorded show and then press 'Info' to display the channel banner.
    While the channer banner is displayed, enter the S-P-S-Pause-S sequence.

    * NOTE: This works with a TivoHD. Not sure about the S4 platform.
  17. wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Ziphead

    Aug 2, 2003
    Yeah, I noticed that. It's like they're trying to obscure the meaning of that line. :/

    Or maybe they're planning for additional sensors to report the temperature in other areas? But that wouldn't explain the removal of the "C".
  18. tommyprevatt

    tommyprevatt New Member

    Oct 29, 2011
    In the HD-UI, when you clicked on the TiVo button before, the video and audio used to pause for a second when it opened the TiVo menu. Now it continues to play the sound and the video doesn't seem to pause even as it's moving to the top right corner. (I'm on and antenna, so this might only be for antenna watchers)
  19. Leon WIlkinson

    Leon WIlkinson TiVo Gone Wild

    Feb 13, 2000
    TiVo Town
    The Video window usually had it off
    I believe it use to only let you see live Tv even if you was in a recording, plus it would not stay paused, in fact it would go to the start of the buffer.

    Now the Video Window acts as a true screen source of the last content it was playing.
  20. mmf01

    mmf01 New Member

    Jan 31, 2011
    Confirmed on S4. Lightning quick now. Thanks!

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