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The 100 - Pilot (who are we kidding - full-season thread). Spoilers okay.

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by danterner, Mar 23, 2014.

  1. Mar 28, 2014 #61 of 157
    AeneaGames

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    And this I explained away that she doesn't want anyone else to know she is going and/or she doesn't want to use a lander/capsule/whatever that is meant for something else.
     
  2. Mar 28, 2014 #62 of 157
    AeneaGames

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    Still, I don't see why they aren't simply picking a couple 100 more people to send to earth since it does way more logical than just airlocking them. After all, the plan is that they all are going to return to earth one day which they've always assumed was after 100 years and this is what, 96 years later instead of 100?

    In any case they should have planned to have more landers/capsules to get them there!

    I do hope I'm right about the other stuff I wrote above too otherwise it won't last long for me :)
     
  3. Mar 28, 2014 #63 of 157
    zordude

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    They've established that the life support will be fixed in 6 months, so they only need to kill enough people to get that far, that is how they are calculating how many to kill.
     
  4. Mar 28, 2014 #64 of 157
    zordude

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    Based on the dialogue in the last episode, I believe the plan was to return to earth 100 years after the current date.

    They have been in space for 97* years.


    * Corrected, thanks AG.
     
  5. Mar 28, 2014 #65 of 157
    AeneaGames

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    You sure? Not that my memory is all that great but I thought they said they wanted to send people back after 100 years and that sending those 100 kids now was a few years too early.

    Just Googled it, the show is set 97 years after they left earth after a nuclear war.
     
  6. Mar 28, 2014 #66 of 157
    dswallow

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    I believe in the pilot they mention how there's only enough resources for another 3-ish months -- that's MONTHS -- because of whatever error they made calculating things. Now at this point, just how many of whoever is left aboard the station would they need to get rid of in order for the resources available, which presumably includes some level of renewable ones, enable the remaining people and subsequent generations they produce, to survive for another 100 years.

    So, in other words, they should be working to get most everybody to the surface now, as there's simply no choice, short of perhaps an alien-led rescue, or discovering they made yet another error calculating what remains. There's really not much alternative, unless there is some technology that will be available in the next few MONTHS that will be a game changer.
     
  7. Mar 28, 2014 #67 of 157
    danterner

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    They clarified in the second episode that the impending doom is not certain - the station engineers need six months to fix the issue (but it is fixable given that time). With the population at its current level, they will only survive for four. But if they kill enough people, they buy enough time for the engineers to fix the problem so the remaining survivors could stay on indefinitely. They also clarified that it's a problem with the O2 scrubbers, and that people are already showing signs of oxygen deprivation. Is there a separate "resources are running out" issue that's additional to the fixable O2 issue?
     
  8. Mar 28, 2014 #68 of 157
    Rob Helmerichs

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    I suppose it's possible that this will be the first occasion in all of recorded history when the amount of time they estimate it will take to fix an issue is actually the amount of time it will take... :D
     
  9. Mar 28, 2014 #69 of 157
    danterner

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    At least if they turn out to be wrong nobody will be around to say "I told you so" :)
     
  10. Mar 28, 2014 #70 of 157
    Rob Helmerichs

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    I wonder if they give a window. "We can fix it between 8:00 and 12:00, or 12:00 and 4:00, in six months."
     
  11. Mar 28, 2014 #71 of 157
    JYoung

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    As stated by AG, I think that they do have other ships but Paige Turco needs this one because her operation is going to be clandestine.


    By inference, resources are a continuing concern due to being a closed environment (which is why they are so liberal with the death penalty, wasting resources is a huge issue) but not a "running out" issue at the moment.

    Not dying is a great motivator.

    Think how great your cable company service would be if the threat of death hung over them.
     
  12. Mar 28, 2014 #72 of 157
    Rob Helmerichs

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    I'm more amused by the notion that they can determine how long it will take to fix it right down to the exact number of people they need to kill to keep enough air for that period. 208 dead just won't cut it. It MUST be 209, because that's how long it will take to fix the scrubbers. 210, of course, would be overkill.
     
  13. Mar 29, 2014 #73 of 157
    JYoung

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    I'm sure Councilor Kane added some extra people to those figures as a buffer because, well, he's just that kind of guy.
     
  14. Mar 29, 2014 #74 of 157
    cheesesteak

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    I laughed when they showed that some of the useless kids formed a drum circle.
     
  15. Mar 29, 2014 #75 of 157
    Silverman

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    Actually, having room for a prison space on a hundred year old station does make sense. There would have been supplies and spare parts that would be now used up freeing space.

    The need for super strong re-entry vehicles is also unnecessary as you need not do a fiery re-entry. Just get in low orbit, fire your rocket or even just compressed gas like waste CO2 against your orbital speed till you are not moving relative to the ground anymore, then gravity will let you descend.

    That is how those boosters would come back after a shuttle launch. You have to make a good parachute of course but that ought be doable on the station. Remember that guy who jumped from 40 miles up and lived, same idea.
     
  16. Mar 29, 2014 #76 of 157
    JohnS-MI

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    Uhh, no. Low earth orbital velocity is around 18000 mph, it takes as much fuel to stop from 18000 mph as it does to get up to 18000 mph (at least on a "per pound" basis, a lot of pounds of fuel are already burnt). Fiery reentry is used specifically to avoid that huge fuel burn. A little fuel is burnt to start the fall into atmosphere, friction does (most of) the rest of the braking.

    Hence the heat resistant tiles on the shuttles. The boosters never make it to orbit and do fall back to earth.
     
  17. Mar 29, 2014 #77 of 157
    madscientist

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    I was amused at their chosen form of execution: blow people out of an airlock, along with a bunch of the air that you're so worried about preserving. I haven't seen the second episode yet, but based on the size of the airlock they were going to send Dr. Griffin out of in the pilot, "floating" enough people will put a healthy dent in their resources I'd imagine.
     
  18. Mar 30, 2014 #78 of 157
    Peter000

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    Either they depressurized the airlock first, or they did the math and figured out that what they saved by floating the person was by far more than they wasted.
     
  19. Mar 30, 2014 #79 of 157
    wprager

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    I don't get the CW but I saw this show up on Netflix (Canada, not US). Watched a bit of it last night. Only has two episodes up. It's not a Netflix Original, so not sure how it got there. Are they going to get all shows filmed in Canada showing up on Netflix Canada in real time?
     
  20. Mar 30, 2014 #80 of 157
    danterner

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    I don't think they can depressurize first. If they did, then when they open the port her body wouldn't whoosh out into space - it'd just stay in the depressurized airlock.
     

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