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TDC240 Blinking orange-green - No boot

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by antalo, Aug 18, 2012.

  1. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    Let me see what I can do about finding you somewhere from which to download those mfrs diagnostics.

    I'll PM you in an hour or 3.
     
  2. antalo

    antalo New Member

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    I think I found it ! ! ! ! :D

    http://www.butterscotch.com/tutorial/How-To-Format-A-Drive-In-Windows?src=splr

    It's right in windows. I'm formatting now. Disk Management - -> Initialize
    It's not that simple. If you don't know, you never find it on your own. Talking about myself of course I don't know how long it will take and then will see if it's going to work.

    P.S.
    Under the pix, NOTES: gives step by step in writing.
     
  3. unitron

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    If the drive is going into a TiVo, formatting it for Windows, or formatting it to use in a computer in general, is unneccessary, as putting the TiVo image on the drive will overwrite all of that formatting.

    I thought you were trying to find the various manufacturer's diagnostic software, which ignores formatting and analyzes the drive at a lower level than that.

    If you want to format the drive to put in a computer to use the TiVo Desktop program to copy shows from the TiVo to the computer, format the drive as one big NTFS partition.
     
  4. antalo

    antalo New Member

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    Maybe I didn't explain myself clear enough. The drive I got working this morning got formatted using the WD DOS diagnostics. I think something got screwed up on the drive and it prevented it to boot up in the Tivo. I know all that you are saying, about the image over writes everythng, but ........ I don't know ! ! ........ It worked with one drive, will see if it works with this one. This is a Seagate 1,5 TB and I won't forget to limit it to 1 TB. It's 60% formatted now. It will probably take another hour.
     
  5. antalo

    antalo New Member

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    It's another day and another problem, or puzzle. :confused:
    My theory didn't work. I don't know if the Seagate got formatted or not, because Win Explore didn't recognize it Making a long story short, I loaded the TDC540 image into the drive, got one of my spare 540 put the drive in and prayed. (Not really) It did boot up, got to the setup screen and I let it call in to get the setup started.
    Now why would it work in the 540 and not in the 240 ? Im really :confused: here. I thought maybe the image I got got corrupted, so I downloaded a "fresh" copy, loaded it into the drive, hooked it up to the TDC 240 and it did the same thing. The red light gets real bright and stays that way. The light on the adapter, not on the Tivo. The drive in the TDC240 right is a 500 GB WD. Maybe the Tivo doesn't like Seagate ? I did swap the adapters, but that didn't help either. I hae to eat something before my blood sugar gets too low and pass out......
     
  6. antalo

    antalo New Member

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    Since I'm in the testing moode, I decided to check if I can get 2 drives installed in the TDC540, since both of the drives were working in it. Hooked up both drives to the sec IDE cable in my XP Home PC. Took the jumper off from the center connector's adapter or slave setting. After powering up the PC and the initial red lights on the adapters briefly came on indicating to me that the PC read the drives (recognized). As soon as the PC went into boot mode, both adapters red lights came on brightly, indicating to me, it's not working. Put the jumper back on the adapter on the midle connector, auf course after shutting the PC off, Each time I do something to the drives or adapters the PC is getting turned off, removing power from the drives and adapters. These adapters supposedly should work in the master - slave config.
    I booted up with one drive in the middle with the jumper on on the adapter. When the PC initially reads the drives in the CMOS or BIOS it reads the drives position as Sec. Master, not slave. With the jumper on the adapter off, the red led is constantly on, so that doesn't work either.

    Conclusion : No 2 drive set up with these adapters in the TDC 540xxx

    Assumption about these drives and the TDC240 Both of these drives Samsung & Seagate are ATA 133 and I assume they don't work in the TDC240s. I got the Samsung HD154UI humming along in the TDC540.

    I like to hear if anybody successfully installed 2 SATA drives in the same TDC240 xxxx and/or TDC540 xxxx TiVos and what adapters were used, These adapters was I using : http://www.wowparts.com/pata-to-sata-adapter-converter-for-2-5-3-5-hdd-dvd/
     
  7. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    I was under the assumption that ATA-133 was strictly a PATA/IDE thing, and not SATA.

    Of course, to do ATA-133, one must use an 80 conductor 40 connector IDE cable, and those cables are set up to do cable select rather than master/slave.

    The IDE controller expects the drive on the middle (gray) connector to be the slave and the drive on the black end connector to be the master.


    If one uses the older 40 conductor, 40 connector IDE cable, then even on a motherboard that can do ATA-133 one won't get it, because the correct pin isn't grounded to tell the controller the right kind of cable is present.

    Also, with the 40/40 cable, you have to jumper for master/slave (unless you have one of those rare cable select cables with an actual hole punched into the cable).

    Whether a particular model TiVo's power supply is up to providing the current necessary to power 2 drives instead of one is a separate question.
     

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