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TB Brighthouse is at it again

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by truman861, Mar 26, 2014.

  1. ahwman

    ahwman Member

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    I've already tried this, however it creates a new problem. About 30-40% of the time the tuning adapter gets stuck in hunt mode after a power-cycle and never syncs (blinking yellow light). When this happens, it requires a second and sometimes even a third power-cycle. I'm just absolutely stunned that we as consumers have to out up with this - all the while still paying both TiVo as well as the cable companies...
     
  2. sbiller

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    A data point of one...

    I'm on BHN in Tampa with my Cisco TA running PKEY1.5.3_F.p.1101 and my Roamio on 20.4.1. I haven't had a failed tune or a need to do anything with my TA for as long as I can remember.
     
  3. CoxInPHX

    CoxInPHX COX Communications

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    ^^^ Correction to above

    Cisco CableCARD Firmware
    OS Ver: PKEY1.5.3_F.p.1101 is the latest Cisco CableCARD Firmware
    OS Ver: PKEY1.5.3_F.p.0601 works fine for me also.

    Cisco Tuning Adapter Firmware
    FLASH: STA1.0.0_1520_LR_F.1901 is the latest Cisco Tuning Adapter Firmware
    FLASH: STA1.0.0_1520_LR_F.1601 is what I am running and works OK since TiVo SW Vers: 20.3.8
     
  4. moedaman

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    So out of all the cablecos in the USA, only TWC/BHN have the flags embedded on every cable channel. I can't believe that networks have been negotiating this because if networks really wanted them, most, if not all cablecos would be this way. I seriously doubt that this is anything but TWC/BHN's way of screwing over people who use non-TWC/BHN dvr's.
     
  5. davezatz

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    Verizon's a better home than Brighthouse for TiVo owners for sure. CCI flag is only set on HBO and there is no SDV tuning adapter mess.
     
  6. windracer

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    Too bad FIOS isn't available in my area and I doubt it ever will at this point. :(
     
  7. sbiller

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    Unfortunately, not an option for me in my current location either.

    I've been lobbying our BHN representative to help get this issue resolved. I think I may give him a call to discuss some more. Perhaps a letter writing campaign to BHN management might help...

    SDV at this point is a don't care because it seems to be 100% reliable for me with the latest Roamio update combined with the latest Cisco firmware. I have my Roamio and SDV TA tucked away in an AV closet so I don't really see (or hear) the extra equipment.
     
  8. truman861

    truman861 New Member

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    I realize it may have been trivial for me to have an issue with an extra peice of equipment sitting on my entertainment center but my whole thing was the fact they are taking channels not currently SDV and making them SDV further requiring the neccessity to have that device on top of my roamio.

    FIOS is avail in most of tampa, hope your able to get it very soon Sam, looking forward to it myself tomorrow.

    Truman861
     
  9. windracer

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    Unfortunately, Verizon stopped its FIOS rollout a while ago and has no plans to resume, so if you can't get it now, you most likely will never get it.
     
  10. wmcbrine

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    HBO and Cinemax only -- i.e. not Showtime, Starz, etc.
     
  11. sbiller

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    Other than Science HD, the rest look like SD flavors. It only hurts when there is only a SD flavor (I notice a few that way). I get the bandwidth differences, but in general I'm in favor of the SD variants being move to SDV to allow more HD to move into that space.
     
  13. JosephB

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    The trick is, though, that the small little DTAs that they use for the all digital transition aren't compatible with SDV, they're like a CableCard TV without a tuning adapter. So, for all the analog-only customers, the channels in those tiers have to be non-SDV, meaning the SD, low tier channels will always be broadcast instead of switched.
     
  14. jwbelcher

    jwbelcher New Member

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    Those little guys pump out HD channels just fine. They also push out 480i coax for those with old TVs. So how long does SD need simulcast?
     
  15. truman861

    truman861 New Member

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    So here is an update, Had fios installed yesterday, (so nice not having the TA sitting on top anymore) and turns out I had a real tech savy installer, he's up to speed on DLNA and cvp4 IP etc (sorry if i butchered that),
    What he advised is that yes, they are no longer extending the fios viewing area so if its not avail, then its not going to be made avail going forward for right now. Basically explained how their new ceo is from wireless and doesnt want to dump more money in the system which is no longer going to be the latest and greatest.
    He did advise that Verizon is getting ready to come out with their new dvr that also does 6 channels and works off moca 2.0 but they are in process of developing a new IP based system which in turn will be avail to everyone once its avail. Did say its going to take a little while and may not be by the end of the year, probably sometime early next year but at least it is coming.

    Of course he didnt have any info on VOD being made avail but I guess some info is better than none and was really nice having a tech who keeps up to speed with developments and knows about the technology verses just someone who screws something into the wall and plugs in the wires - thats always been my BHN experience except for BHNtechXpert above who I spoke with in person.
     
  16. Bigg

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    At least for expanded basic, a long time. But other stuff could eventually be moved to MPEG-4 or eliminated altogether in favor of just scaling the HD.

    BHN and TWC have their copy flags set incorrectly. Surprisingly for being widely hated, Comcast actually does their correctly, as does Verizon. Everything except HBO can be transferred over to the PC or another TiVo, and that's only because HBO strong-arms the providers into throwing the flags on their content (because you totally can't torrent it anyways LOL).

    WRONG. Only HBO and possible other premium channels are supposed to be copy once. Putting copy once on regular cable channels is an incorrect implementation of the copy flag.

    Of course the whole CCI flag system is idiotic, and probably costs a bunch of money to implement just for HBO and a couple of other channels, whose stuff is all over bittorrent anyways. Maybe once Comcast buys up TWC, they will lay down the law with the content providers, and just move everything to copy freely. It sure would be a heck of a lot easier and cheaper for them to not have to support a few oddball channels.
     
  17. sbiller

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    Bigg,

    You may be completely correct about the CCI flags, but do you have information that substantiates your claim? To date, I've been unable to prove anything one way or the other. I do suspect that BHN is penalizing CableCARD users and doesn't want them to have a feature that isn't available to their leased-box users.

    Thanks,
    S
     
  18. JosephB

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    TWC and BHN purposefully have their CCI flags set the way they are. It is not "incorrect" from their point of view. I doubt it is to "penalize" cablecard subs or to restrict specific TiVo functionality (the CCI flags have been set that way long before Roamios or Streams existed, and they have Whole Home DVRs themselves).

    It's very likely that it is a leftover legacy of TWC's former ownership by Time Warner, Inc. which owns a lot of content and would like to see DRM on everything. BHN's use of it is due to their legacy of being former TWC systems and the fact that TWC still oversees their engineering and programming contracts.
     
  19. Bigg

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    Comcast, Verizon and others don't flag them. Hence, they don't need to be flagged. I don't know why TWC is flagging them. I think BHN flags them because they use TWC technology, and that probably came with the rest of the package.

    It's possible that some moronic executive who doesn't know what a megabyte is mandated it. However, it makes no logical sense, as other providers don't flag channels other than the premiums.

    They are purposefully incorrectly flagging the channels. I agree that it's malfeasance, not nonfeasance.
     
  20. JosephB

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    "Incorrectly" assumes that there is a right or wrong answer to the question. The BHN rep regularly cites programming agreements. As much complaining that has happened if it was someone not knowing what they were talking about they would have fixed it by now. They know what they're doing, and they did it on purpose. If it was someone being moronic and not understanding, it would be hit or miss across their systems.
     

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