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Switched to Dish, keeping Premiere

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by stinastina, Feb 25, 2013.

  1. Richard Cranium

    Richard Cranium New Member

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    You're not going to tell on me are you? :D
     
  2. Bigg

    Bigg Active Member

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    Yeah, DISH's system is just too limited. 4 tuners total would be my MINIMUM. With DISH, you basically have two, as one is only for the networks. With DirecTV, you can have 5 on the main box, and you can have another 2-tuner DVR on top of that before you max out a SWiMLine setup (although as noted above, with the right multiswitch configuration, and somewhat deep pockets, you can have some pretty insane hardware).
     
  3. compnurd

    compnurd New Member

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    Direct TV will install up to 16 Tuners with easy hardware... going above that gets interesting
     
  4. Rose4uKY

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    Dish told me there Hopper can record 6 shows and using the Joey's doesn't take away a tuner like the mini's have to be connected to a tuner and then if I had two mini's I would only have 2 tuners.. With the equipment being free I think we may just switch to Dish but my boyfriend is really concerned about 2 things one the weather and how often you lose signal and that we have to sign a 2 year contract... We have a couple more weeks to decide and Monday I call this guy back who's been on vacation and see if he sent someone out to my new place to see if we can even get a signal. My boyfriend also said we don't have to make a decision right away we can keep the Tivo Series 3 we have now were paying 9.95 6.95 and one is on lifetime so will see..

     
  5. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

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    This is only true during prime time and if 4 of them are on the major networks (ABC, CBS, NBC, & Fox). The way this works is that Dish is sending all those networks through one transponder stream normally the tuner will break the channel out you want from the stream, instead Dish is recording the whole stream and breaking the channel out after the fact. Otherwise the Hopper is a 3 tuner DVR.
     
  6. Richard Cranium

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    I'm not a 100% sure but I think Dish and DirecTV point there dishes in opposite directions.

    I'm probably wrong and I'm sure someone will point it out, but if you can't get a "sight line" on one you should be able to get one on the other.

    You won't be disappointed with the Genie if you choose to go with DirecTV.
     
  7. compnurd

    compnurd New Member

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    Direct TV points SW and i want to say Dish is more SE
     
  8. Series3Sub

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    To be clear, Stinastina, as was pointed out by another poster, the only time you can record up to 6 channels via satellite is IF you have enabled Prim Time Anytime feature and ONLY during those prime time hours or set your own timers for all 4 big nets during Prime Time. 4 of those channels must be the big four nets. The rest of the time it is only 3 satellite tuners available for viewing and recording, and those 3 tuners are shared among the Hopper and all Joeys. However, multiple users may view or records any of the local channels via satellite using only ONE tuner, even outside of PTAT. So, in those situations you would still have 2 satellite tuners. For just you and boyfriend, one Hopper could work out well. It sounds like you may have spoken with an CSR NOT in the USA. They never get it right. The Hopper has only THREE satellite tuners and ONE optional OTA tuner, and the Joeys, contrary to what the CSR told you, do indeed use the Hopper's tuners. So if you watch live TV from a Joey, it uses one of the Hopper's tuners, and that leaves one LESS tuner. However, you can watch a DVR recording from either the Hopper or Joey if there are not tuners available for live TV viewing because of other viewing live TV or the tuners currently recording.

    You may want to consider purchasing the Over The Air (OTA) module for $30 so that you can view and record your local channels using an antenna to receive your local stations. While your locals may be provided via satellite, the optional OTA tuners allows for some increased flexibility, and extra tuner available for OTA, and also allows you to view and record using the Hopper some of the most popular channels offered via local broadcasts on "sub-channel" such as MeTV, Antenna TV, This TV, and COZI TV. The coax from your rabbit ears or OTA antenna connects to the module, and then connect the USB plug into the port on the Hopper. Just know what you are getting.
     
  9. Series3Sub

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    It depends upon which arc you will have the Dish reflector pointed. For the Dish Western Arc, Dish and Direct point in the same general SW direction. However, the Dish Eastern Arc looks at 77; 72.7; and 61.5, a more SE direction.
     
  10. Rose4uKY

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    I just want to thank everyone for responding we really were unsure which route go and we keep changing our mind.. My boyfriend doesn't really want to have to sign a 2 year contract with Dish in case we don't like it and he's still concerned about signal going out with the weather.. My friend actually said she loves AT&T Uverse but it's only there internet is available where were moving not there TV service..

    But anyway after reading about the Tivo mini's now my boyfriend wants to sell our Serie's 3 Tivo's and try the Premiere and the mini's. I've had Tivo for ever and got him to switch from his cables DVR and he loves it too. He does have a Roku for his Blaze Channel which Dish has but he will use the Roku for that like he does now. I want the Premiere XL4 with 300 HD hours and it comes with the glo remote. We keep changing our minds but I think were used to Tivo and I told my boyfriend as long as we have something I don't care if it's Tivo or Dish I just want to record and watch from another room without transferring like I do now I want it to be instant. We hardly ever are watching live TV it will be all recordings from the Premiere and Mini's most of the time..

    Thank Everyone for responding I appreciate it. Now Tivo offered my a factory renewed Premiere for 324.99 with a free Mocha adapter or a brand new box for 349.99 without Mocha. My boyfriend said where are TV is going and cable is we may not need the Mocha but it would be nice to have. Has anyone ever bought a factory renewed Tivo? Do I get that with free mocha or pay 25 more for new box no Mocha. He did say he may be able to check with his supervisor and still get me a free Mocha with the new box for 349.99 but he said don't count on it but I can try. So will see but for now I guess were sticking with Tivo. Thanks Again!


     
  11. Rose4uKY

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    I just want to thank everyone for responding we really were unsure which route go and we keep changing our mind.. My boyfriend doesn't really want to have to sign a 2 year contract with Dish in case we don't like it and he's still concerned about signal going out with the weather.. My friend actually said she loves AT&T Uverse but it's only there internet is available where were moving not there TV service..

    But anyway after reading about the Tivo mini's now my boyfriend wants to sell our Serie's 3 Tivo's and try the Premiere and the mini's. I've had Tivo for ever and got him to switch from his cables DVR and he loves it too. He does have a Roku for his Blaze Channel which Dish has but he will use the Roku for that like he does now. I want the Premiere XL4 with 300 HD hours and it comes with the glo remote. We keep changing our minds but I think were used to Tivo and I told my boyfriend as long as we have something I don't care if it's Tivo or Dish I just want to record and watch from another room without transferring like I do now I want it to be instant. We hardly ever are watching live TV it will be all recordings from the Premiere and Mini's most of the time..

    Thank Everyone for responding I appreciate it. Now Tivo offered my a factory renewed Premiere for 324.99 with a free Mocha adapter or a brand new box for 349.99 without Mocha. My boyfriend said where are TV is going and cable is we may not need the Mocha but it would be nice to have. Has anyone ever bought a factory renewed Tivo? Do I get that with free mocha or pay 25 more for new box no Mocha. He did say he may be able to check with his supervisor and still get me a free Mocha with the new box for 349.99 but he said don't count on it but I can try. So will see but for now I guess were sticking with Tivo. Thanks Again!


     
  12. Richard Cranium

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    If you're happy I'm happy. That's all that counts.

    One thing though. You most DEFINITELY want MOCA over wireless.

    As a matter of fact I don't think you even have a choice if your looking at a Mini.

    Oh, and is that $350 for a refurb include lifetime service?
     
  13. Bigg

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    Yeah, you lose the SWiMLine setup after 8, but yes, they have a SWiM 16 separate Multiswitch with two separate SWiM halves and bridged DECA. I think you would max out DECA and multi-room not too long after 16 tuners unless you have a ridiculous number of HR34/44s. Also, if you watch that much TV... holy crap.
     
  14. Rose4uKY

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    It's 324.99 for a factory renewed with free Mocha and monthly fee or 349 for a new Tivo with monthly fee and no mocha but might be able to still get me one since I've been a customer for so long but not sure... Yeah we were told we need a mocha for the Premiere and that the 2 minis have mochas built in..

    QUOTE=Richard Cranium;9722179]If you're happy I'm happy. That's all that counts.

    One thing though. You most DEFINITELY want MOCA over wireless.

    As a matter of fact I don't think you even have a choice if your looking at a Mini.

    Oh, and is that $350 for a refurb include lifetime service?[/QUOTE]
     

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