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Swap HDs for Premieres?

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by badhat, Sep 21, 2013.

  1. badhat

    badhat New Member

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    I have 3 Series 3 HDs (all with lifetime), 2 of which are eligible to be "swapped" for refurbed Premieres for $49 each. This cost includes the transfer of the lifetime service, as well as exchange shipping -- so, $49 all in for each unit.

    My question is: should I consider this offer? While being older models, the HDs are functioning well, and something makes me think their build quality might be better than that of the Premieres? I'm aware of the larger storage capacity of the Premieres, but for the most part this is not an issue based upon their usage.

    All units have Comcast cablecards installed; I'm not interested in using their On-Demand feature.

    I'd appreciate the sage advice of anyone who'd care to contribute an opinion!
     
  2. CrispyCritter

    CrispyCritter Purple Ribbon Wearer

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    For me, the deciding factor would be the ability to stream shows from one Premiere to another, without actual copying. Depending on what you do, that may or may not be important to you.

    (Actually, I would get Roamios and Minis for me - the Roamio is much better than the Premiere. But you've got a nice deal available for you for very little money.)
     
  3. jrtroo

    jrtroo User

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    um, where did you get this offer? I'm intrugued as I would love to do this and then use the new premiere in place of a Mini and replace my other box with a roamio.
     
  4. badhat

    badhat New Member

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    Talk to TiVo tech support and ask about possibilities. Your mileage may vary...
     
  5. scandia101

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

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    The TiVo HD power supplies going bad (bulging capacitors) is a big issue and it's getting worse as the hardware gets older. Based on that alone I'd go for the Premiere deal.
     
  6. WO312

    WO312 Active Member

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    I have both. I guess I do like the Premiere better but that may be because it has 4 tuners. I don't like the speed (slowness) of the HD interface, so I use the SD interface so the experience on both machines is about the same.

    Will you ever use OTA ?? Do the Premieres they are offering have that?? That could be a consideration.
     
  7. badhat

    badhat New Member

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    The Premiere being offered is the dual-tuner (yours must be the Premier 4), so its the same as the HD in that respect.

    I have no plans to use OTA, so not an issue.
     
  8. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    If you know which end of a soldering iron by which to not pick it up the power supply problem isn't a real biggie.

    The HD and the original 320GB and 500GB Premiere models are all capable of and limited to upgrading to a 2TB drive.

    Find out exactly what the Premiere offers that the HDs don't and see if it's something you think makes the deal worth it.

    (Some of what I've read from early Premiere adopters would have had me wanting to trade them in on HDs)
     
  9. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    How did this offer happen to come about, anyway?

    You should counter with an offer to do the changeover of the sub to the Premieres but on condition that they give you the $99 lifetime deal on the now unsubbed HDs so that you can sell them on for a couple of hundred bucks or so each.

    I don't see any benefit to TiVo to actually physically getting their hands on your HDs as they're no doubt going to hand them off to the nearest recycler rather than try to sell them as used.

    Actually shipping a Premiere to you and paying to ship your HD back to them is going to eat up most of that $49, so I'm wondering just what it is that they're really up to here.
     
  10. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    My guess is that he's on Cox or Verizon and can't pick up the few channels that are h.264, so they offered to swap HDs for Premieres.
     
  11. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    Does that mean people with lifetimed dual tuner S2s will be able to swap for S3s or S4s when their cable company goes all digital?

    Seems like the same principle "I paid for lifetime and my cable company broke things".
     
  12. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    Tivo has been doing this (apparently) because the HD says it supports digital cable, but apparently not for h.264 channels that were added. I think it's a valid reason to offer a swap since it does play h.264 net streaming content, just not via QAM. I don't understand why they didn't update the software to support it though.

    See the Cox cable thread in the S3 forum for details.
     
  13. Soapm

    Soapm Active Member

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    I didn't even think to call Tivo when Comcast went digital but now I wonder if I missed out on a deal???
     
  14. hanlan

    hanlan New Member

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    so if i have an older HD (working fine BTW), i should call and say please upgrade me to a Premiere? I'd love to get a 4-tuner premiere
     
  15. badhat

    badhat New Member

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    As I understand it, the "standard" value for lifetime is 3 years. If you have lifetime service, but not yet for three years, they will consider a "swap" upgrade, and transfer the lifetime service to a refurbished Premiere (but NOT a 4-tuner model).

    Two of my lifetime service agreements were inside the 3 year window, but the third had been owned with lifetime service for longer than that. I DID ask, but no upgrade path was available for that older HD. It's NOT how old the hardware is, but how long you've had the lifetime service agreement.
     

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