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Survivor Finale & Reunion show 12/16/12 SPOILERS

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Peter000, Dec 17, 2012.

  1. Dec 17, 2012 #21 of 136
    Donbadabon

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    I would've been happy with any of the final 4. First time in Survivor history I could say that.

    I wish Jeff would've asked them if Penners angry rant at Lisa swayed any of their votes.

    Looking at the different lists online of who is playing next year doesn't seem to match up with the teaser video they played last night. In the video I saw

    Russell Hantz, Coach and Rupert

    but they are not on the list that I've seen.
     
  2. Dec 17, 2012 #22 of 136
    Tivortex

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    My favorite line was Artis: "Even I was starting to think I was an angry black man".
     
  3. Dec 17, 2012 #23 of 136
    betts4

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    Of that list -

    please not coach again!
     
  4. Dec 17, 2012 #24 of 136
    JFriday

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    I was surprised Denise won, I was rooting for Lisa. Then I realized I had Denise in our pool.
     
  5. Dec 17, 2012 #25 of 136
    VegasVic

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    If I recall the teaser videos in the past also had some "red herrings"
     
  6. Dec 17, 2012 #26 of 136
    Steveknj

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    What did Penner do 20 years ago? They alluded to it, but I have no idea. I like the show, but I'm not a reader of all the fan blogs. Watching the show and discussing it here is enough for me.

    As for the finale. I was ok with Denise winning. I thought she might early on because she seemed like kind of a smart wild card. I didn't think Lisa did herself any justice at the tribal. She seemed like she was telling everyone she had no idea how to play until her brother came into the game. Well that's no way to win by admitting you really had no plan until near the end. I thought Skupin might win, but I wonder if him playing again had something to do with it.

    I found it interesting that Denise during the reunion looked EXACTLY the same as she did on the island. I guess she's not one of those who "cleans up" well. RC came off very ditzy, during the reunion and during her tribal speech. She never seemed like that during her island interviews. I also found it curious that they filmed Abi from behind while she was questioning the finalists. Her best side? :)

    As for next year:

    I've totally had enough of the "favorites" If they bring back the same players again...Rupert, Coach, Hantz, etc. I'm out for next season. And it will be the first season of Survivor that I would miss.
     
  7. Dec 17, 2012 #27 of 136
    VegasVic

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    Penner was an actor (I guess he isn't anymore?). I remember he had one line on Seinfeld as "Zach", a co-worker of Elaine's. Maybe he's bitter his career never took off.
     
  8. Dec 17, 2012 #28 of 136
    Lee 2.0

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    Penner was a huge disappointment for me. I really liked him in the first two games, and I get that he's frustrated but come on, guy. Almost as distressing as calling Denise a "b" on national television and being petty about Lisa's career was the odd way he styled himself for the reunion. He looked better with his salt and pepper hair and a natural tan. Just the epitome of a man who is uncomfortable in his own skin, and that's sad because I don't think it was always the case. I wonder if he'll look back on the end of this season with pride or have the good grace to be embarrassed.
     
  9. Dec 17, 2012 #29 of 136
    VegasVic

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    You rarely, if ever, get to the finals without flipping/blindsiding at least once. If you do it too much you'll likely also not make it. I get really tired of the "at least I played with integrity" b.s. from some jury members. I get there being some anger and resentment after being voted out. But get over it, if you've ever watched this show you know how it works.
     
  10. Dec 17, 2012 #30 of 136
    Steveknj

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    Whatever you think of Richard Hatch, I always think about when he got blindsided during one of the seasons and he said with a smile "I got bamboozled"!! I loved that. I think he realized it was a game. That's the attitude you should play with. Realize that no matter what you do to create your best game, there's someone else thinking the same thing. So, trust no one, and if you get voted out, realize that in most cases it wasn't personal, it was game play. There's a reason why someone like Abi stuck around, despite being annoying, and it was because the game play dictated that. You'd think someone like Penner, as many times as he's played, would have realized this. His game just got in the way of someone's better game.
     
  11. Dec 17, 2012 #31 of 136
    Amnesia

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    Yeah, but it also dictated that she should have been in the final three...
     
  12. Dec 17, 2012 #32 of 136
    VegasVic

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    Agreed, it made no sense to keep Abi around and then cut her loose before the final 3.
     
  13. Dec 17, 2012 #33 of 136
    Steveknj

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    I agree, and if I was playing, she'd have been in the final three. I think in THIS case, they probably couldn't get a definitive censuses on which of the "core four" to vote out. Abi just seemed like the easiest way to go and then deal with it at the next TC.
     
  14. Dec 17, 2012 #34 of 136
    betts4

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    He was a disappointment for me just at the very end with his final comments. But yes, he sure looked better with the salt and pepper hair and tan.
     
  15. Dec 17, 2012 #35 of 136
    Kablemodem

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    I would have been happy with any of the final three as the winner, but I am glad Denise won. I'd also like to thank CBS for not making us wait through a commercial on the Ponderosa clips this season.
     
  16. Dec 17, 2012 #36 of 136
    bryhamm

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    Did you watch the reunion show? Denise would have still won. Probst asked them.
     
  17. Dec 17, 2012 #37 of 136
    wendiness1

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    I had been hoping Lisa would wil but I have to say I wasn't as disappointed as expected when Denise did. She did great job.

    I had liked Penner but he was a dirtbag at the end, outing Lisa like that. I didn't expect that from him. What a cheap, vindictive, ugly move. And this after all the heartfelt talks and reassurance that he would protect her. Scum.

    I was trying to remember who called Denise "bitchy". Was that Penner, too? Whoever it was, I didn't see any bitchiness unless it was edited out but even then you'd think someone else would have commented on it.
     
  18. Dec 17, 2012 #38 of 136
    laria

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    I hope Penner does an interview with someone and clarifies what that was all about. Probst says in his final Q&A that he wrote down on his note cards to ask Penner why he outed her like that and he totally blew it and forgot.
     
  19. Dec 17, 2012 #39 of 136
    JFriday

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    Well they wanted to get rid of her but she won immunity then fooled them into thinking she had the immunity idol enough to avoid being voted off.
     
  20. Dec 17, 2012 #40 of 136
    hefe

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    Man, I lost respect for Penner. I thought he had a better head on his shoulders than that.


    Exactly. And the funny thing is, Penner expressed much the same sentiment in many of his camera interviews during the game before he was voted out.

    Can't believe it was anything other than trying to sway the jury.
     

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