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Survivor Cagayan : "Head of the Snake" : OAD 4-2-2014

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by heySkippy, Apr 2, 2014.

  1. Anubys

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    There may be a technical issue there. Maybe the ruling is that Tony played the idol in LJ's name!

    Also, that would be a terrible strategic decision by LJ. Tony would just kill him and frame someone else for the murder ;)
     
  2. bryhamm

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    Nah. I decided to come here and lie about it.

    :rolleyes:
     
  3. tiams

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    I don't know why they always get rid of the tiny, not-so-smart, young, naive, girls instead of the big strong men who are more likely to win individual immunity. Jeffra was their second choice?

    The new special idol is probably like the golden power of veto.
     
  4. JFriday

    JFriday "Just The Facts"

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    I thought it was smart, you have plenty of time to get rid of the strong players, only 1 of them can win each week. If they had gone for one of the strong men and Kass not flipped they would have been screwed because of both idols being played.
     
  5. Anubys

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    No reason for the bunched up panties :p

    It's been a long-running complaint that the person voted out usually gets the most screen time. It's especially obvious when it's between two people and one of them was hardly shown during the episode. Why the producers choose to ruin an otherwise excellent show this way is a complete mystery.

    Anyway, so I was surprised that you were surprised since that issue has been discussed regularly and you're a regular. No offense was meant (ok, the panties remark was meant, a little) :D
     
  6. betts4

    betts4 I am Spartacus!

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    I always think they should take out the strong guys, but this time it wouldn't have worked.

    What it did do was get rid of two idols. Of course, now there are others to find, but there are also others to look for them.

    The whole cat fight thing bugged me. First that Sarah would be such a bad player as to make a big deal about her being the one vote that controls the game. And I knew when they started giving Kass and her so much air time that first the brains had another choice in mind and that second, one of the two of them would go home.

    If Kass had voted Jeffra - it would have been 6-4 and a much more solid block. But there are always those that don't want to be 6th on the ladder.
     
  7. WO312

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    Well, Dalton Ross was also surprised. And he's pretty savvy about Survivor. From his blog today:



    FOURTH WTF? MOVE: KASS PERFORMS THE ODDEST FLIP IN THE HISTORY OF FLIPS
    After Tony blabbed about his idol and then LJ positively wasted his in giving it to the guy Aparri would now never vote for, the Solana side looked done. Put a fork in them. Even as the votes got to a 5-5 tie, clearly the next one would read Jefra since Aparri had the numbers. So I honestly am not sure I have ever been as shocked to see a last vote as I was here when the last name said Sarah. WHAT?!?!?! Look, I saw the pitch from Trish to Kass to come over to their side. But why would she? Sure, she and Sarah were butting heads and not getting along because Sarah kept pushing for them to vote for the two people in the tribe that had hidden immunity idols. But after that vote, Sarah would not be holding all the cards and they could put her back in her place. Let the woman have her moment. But, apparently, Kass just couldn’t.

    Whenever a person flips, it is always to improve their positioning in the game. You’re on the bottom of one alliance, so switch sides to move up in the new one. Makes sense. But Kass just voluntarily moved into a worse position! Sarah may have been holding the alliance hostage with her vote for this go round, but the Brains were still in charge and had the numbers to enforce that. Was Kass just so blinded with her hatred for Sarah that she could not stand to play alongside her? It would seem so because I cannot come up with a single scenario in which this was a good strategic move. She just threw away a seemingly clear cut path to the final 3 with her Brains bunch to join a group that has already yelled out in plain English via their “TOP 5!” chant that they have no intention of allowing anyone else to make it to the end with them.


    The whole thing: http://tvrecaps.ew.com/recap/survivor-cagayan-episode-6/
     
  8. betts4

    betts4 I am Spartacus!

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    Yep. This. Ego and maybe even a little jealous of the brawn beauty. And she let what's her face that dumped the rice away and sucked at challenges stick around a bit.
     
  9. betts4

    betts4 I am Spartacus!

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    I wonder if there is some hidden agenda that will play out here.
     
  10. dfergie

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    Kass blabbed too much at the start of the game telling people they were next, She just doesn't "get" Survivor...
     
  11. InterMurph

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    I think incompetence is the safer assumption here. Kass is the classic lawyer-Survivor, thinking she's much more strategical than everybody else, but in reality, not as good at the game as she is at being a lawyer.

    The only group worse at Survivor than lawyers is high-stakes poker players, who know they'll do well because, "I can read people really well." Yup.
     
  12. betts4

    betts4 I am Spartacus!

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    Haven't they had one of them in the past (or maybe this season)?
     
  13. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give em Hell, Devils

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    Perfect analysis. Kass just couldn't stand that Sarah was the latecomer to the tribe but was being treated like she was the queen. What Kass failed to see is that the others weren't treating Sarah like a queen, they were treating her with kid gloves because they needed her vote to maintain their numbers advantage, and Sarah was a legit threat to go back into an alliance with her former tribe mates.

    I hope when Kass watched this episode, she slapped herself on the forehead and realized what a prideful idiot she was by flipping.
     
  14. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give em Hell, Devils

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    Yes. Garrett who was the big, buff guy on the Brains tribe and who was blindsided in the second half of the premiere after J'Tia dumped the rice. Remember, he was the one that insisted they have all their discussions about who to vote for out in the open and he wouldn't allow people to go off into groups.
     
  15. JLucPicard

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    Is this referring to a few episodes ago, because Tasha's not the one who dumped the rice - that was J'Tia, who is long gone.
     
  16. Anubys

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    But her post is correct about J'Tia. Kass kept her around until they lost the next challenge. And it was even a close call between J'Tia and Spencer.

    Let's face it: the guy who gave away immunity on TC and promptly got voted out was a stupid person. Kass is the stupidest smart person that has ever played this game.
     
  17. Azlen

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    That's all going to depend on when she eventually got voted out. If it was anytime before final tribal then she definitely should be kicking herself for making such a stupid decision.
     
  18. stellie93

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    I assume that they were worried about LJ's idol. Woo had immunity--there weren't any other guys, were there?

    LJ would have been smarter to give Tony his idol when they got back to camp--unless he didn't believe the "vote for the other one" stuff. Or he could have just kept it until Tony backstabs him sometime--which he probably will.

    I loved Sarah assuring them that Tony didn't have an idol. She deserved to leave just for that.

    We're pretty much proving this season that brains are a handicap in survivor. ;)

    When they first had immunity idols, they could be played after the votes were read--they wouldn't go back to that, would they? Maybe that it could only be played for someone else at that point?
     
  19. Donbadabon

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    Good gravy I hope not. It was that way in Cook Islands and Panama. And Yul showed why this was not a good idea - he told everyone he had it and they didn't vote him out because they knew he could just play it and nullify their votes.
     
  20. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give em Hell, Devils

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    That's what I expected the "different" powers to be. Play it after the votes are read, essentially ensuring that you're safe as long as you have it. But as pointed out, that's essentially a free pass to the final four, so not really a good idea as far as creating drama.

    Oooh, I like this idea. You can play it after the votes are read, but only to save someone else. But in that case, how does Jeff know where the HII originated? For example, say Tony finds it and has it in his possession. At TC, it becomes clear the votes are going to be for him. So he secretly passes the HII to LJ and then after the votes are read, LJ plays it to save Tony. There would have to be some kind of rule to prevent this, or else it's essentially no different from the Yul version of the HII (unless the person holding it has no other allies in the game that will play it for him/her).
     

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