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Survivor 4/25/12

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by bryhamm, Apr 25, 2012.

  1. Apr 26, 2012 #41 of 101

    laria Librocubicularist

    Sep 7, 2000
    Seacoast, NH
    I think that's what the "it" is except I don't think Chelsea would split with Kim. She'd be better off going to Alicia.
  2. Apr 26, 2012 #42 of 101

    pmyers Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2001
    Gilbert, AZ
    I don't agree he'd turn it down. If I was in her shoes I think I would have taken him and Kat. That way Kat is reassured and Troyzan can't get to the other 4 people.
  3. Apr 26, 2012 #43 of 101

    lalouque Quilter-Cat Slave TCF Club

    Feb 11, 2002
    Raleigh, NC
    Cute gets a pass over smart?? No wonder this world is screwed up. :rolleyes:
  4. Apr 26, 2012 #44 of 101

    BradJW Well-Known Member

    Jun 9, 2008
    But she's REALLY cute!
  5. Apr 26, 2012 #45 of 101

    pmyers Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2001
    Gilbert, AZ
    Kat doesn't do it for me, but she's not bad.
  6. Apr 26, 2012 #46 of 101

    Necromancer2006 Active Member

    Jan 26, 2008
    It was a damned if you do, damned if you don't type decision. You bring him along, he gets to eat and get stronger for the immunity challenge. If you don't bring him, he gets "alone time" with potential flippers.

    I would have sat down with my "core" alliance (Kim, Sabrina, Chelsea, Kat) and get on the same page (it appears they were given ample clues about the reward). If one of us wins, and we're allowed to take one person, we take Alicia or Christina. If we're allowed to take a second person, we take the other one. That way, one of us is isolated with the potential flippers and we keep them away from Troyzan who is the only person at this point who can muck up the entire works.

    In the end, it didn't matter. The moment that Troyzan lost, the remaining players knew he was going home. They tried to do a good job of showing the scramble, but when he was knocked out, his fate was sealed.
  7. Apr 26, 2012 #47 of 101
    Fool Me Twice

    Fool Me Twice >>>>>>

    Jul 6, 2004
    Yes. He acted the role of a Survivor savant among idiots the last couple of weeks, only because the dramatic needs of the show allowed it, but it was all theatrics, and little substance.

    My final break from chauvinistic loyalty was last week when he, after waiting patiently to put a necessary tactic into action, entered a sub-max bid for the immunity comp advantage.

    Contrast to Kim, who not only managed to avoid the infighting over who should have outbid Troyzan for the immunity advantage, but found herself taking a shower while eating chocolate and peanut butter with most of her cash still in her pocket.

    Troyzan's parting encouragement to Kat shows he's likely to be another butthurt jury member with an inflated sense of self. If Kim is eliminated he will either try to take credit for it, or use her exit to make a case that it's really the strong players who are eliminated first, and the stupid or lucky ones who end up in the finals.
  8. Apr 26, 2012 #48 of 101

    DevdogAZ Give em Hell, Devils

    Apr 16, 2003
    They went to the jury with 12 people remaining, so that's a pretty good indicator that it will be a final three. I don't think they've ever had an even number of people on the jury.
    If that were the case, we would have seen a private interview with Christina explaining why she didn't say anything when Sabrina told her that. But we didn't see that, because Christina never clued in to it.
    Troyzan played his Idol because he didn't know Jay had told Kim about the Idol. And if Jay hadn't told Kim, Troy definitely would have needed to play it. So the only reason Troy didn't need to play it was something he didn't know, so there's no way he could have known to keep it in his pocket.
    Actually, that's not that surprising. Pigs and dogs roam around freely in Samoa like that, and since the island isn't that big, it's unlikely they haven't previously been exposed to humans.

    I was really surprised at Kat's overreaction. I thought Kim and Chelsea had explained it beforehand that they were going to take the people that were most susceptible to being flipped, which is why Alicia went. Kim did make a mistake though, when she took Chelsea. She should have taken Christina instead.
  9. Apr 26, 2012 #49 of 101

    DancnDude Thrice as nice TCF Club

    Feb 7, 2001
    Madison, WI
    I think Kat was mostly upset that Kim told her that she was going to take her, then didn't. Had Kim told Kat beforehand that she knew she wasn't going to sway and that she needed to take Chelsea because she was more worried, Kat would have felt like she was more secure in the alliance and they had a good reason to keep her there, even if it wasn't true.
  10. Apr 26, 2012 #50 of 101

    Jebberwocky! Guest

    Apr 16, 2005
    she shouldn't have won in the first place - that was her mistake.
  11. Apr 26, 2012 #51 of 101

    JFriday "Just The Facts"

    Mar 20, 2002
    Bay Area
    Exactly, winning that then winning immunity might make people think. Oh what am i talking about not enough people to actually vote her off think.
  12. Apr 26, 2012 #52 of 101

    Ruth Now with toddler

    Jul 31, 2001
    Kim definitely messed up by not taking Kat after promising she would. I am sure it's hard to not take your friends along, but those are the moments that not thinking strategically can hurt you the most.

    That pig was totally planted there by the producers. They also do things like stocking fishing areas with fish.
  13. Apr 26, 2012 #53 of 101

    pmyers Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2001
    Gilbert, AZ
    I agree. She should have let Chelsea win it but I think she was overcome by competition.
  14. Apr 26, 2012 #54 of 101

    heySkippy oldweakandpathetic

    Jul 2, 2001
    Sarasota, FL
    Not sure why the producers would plant a pig when the island is rotten with them. Hell, Florida is rotten with the damned things too. I see large sections of landscape dug up by them every day when I go for my walks during breaks at work. I could scare out a mess of them any time I wanted to go exploring into the brush along the road and this is a mixed residential/commercial area.
  15. Apr 26, 2012 #55 of 101

    Jebberwocky! Guest

    Apr 16, 2005
    Source? According to Dalton the area was overrun with pigs when he visited before the show started.

    It sure didn't look like a wild pig but then I'm no expert.
  16. Apr 26, 2012 #56 of 101

    martinp13 YHTBMABIITY

    Mar 19, 2001
    Fort Worth, TX
    +1. You're voting him off anyway... who cares if he eats a bit? That is MUCH easier to explain to Kat later, rather than why you picked another girl over her.
  17. Apr 26, 2012 #57 of 101

    Necromancer2006 Active Member

    Jan 26, 2008
    Like I said earlier though - it's a catch-22. If you take him, he gets to eat and gather more strength for the impending immunity challenge. If you don't take him, you run the risk of him doing exactly what he did which was get into the heads of the lowest on the totem pole (not that it got through to them).
  18. Apr 26, 2012 #58 of 101

    pmyers Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2001
    Gilbert, AZ
    I think I'd rather take my chances with him getting a little energy than polluting the other players.
  19. Apr 26, 2012 #59 of 101

    Amnesia The Question

    Jan 30, 2005
    Boston, MA
    Why not? If given a choice between a picnic with Kim (which isn't going to get him anywhere game-wise) and a chance to talk to others without Kim there in order to try to flip someone he'd definitely prefer to talk to people...
  20. Apr 26, 2012 #60 of 101

    EscapeGoat wPod TCF Club

    Oct 11, 2008
    I don't want Kat to win, but I wouldn't mind if she got to the final three. There's something about the combination of "Cute as a Button" and "Dumb as a Post" that makes me feel sympathetic to her.

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