I asked this a while back: http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=291463 Never did get a definitive reply, though if the Humax loophole remains in force for a while, it might be something to try after S3 is released. I am surprised that no one from TiVo every clarified that these 30-day transfers are only between like machines. The absence of a NO makes me think this could be possible. How much is LT on a Humax? Is it still $299? Just because TiVo is obligated to offer Lifetime, does not mean that the price cannot be increased.