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Suits - spoiler discussion about this season

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by whitson77, Aug 21, 2013.

  1. markz

    markz Hilarity Ensues

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    Connersville...
    You leave her alone!!
     
  2. wprager

    wprager Active Member

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  3. Agatha Mystery

    Agatha Mystery Active Member

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    I really think having Rachael sign the document stating that she knew was a way to keep her mouth shut. A mutually assured destruction type of insurance. She can't turn them in without being implicated herself.

    As far as Louis alone in the room with all the files of students, I would really imagine that there would be more than what was in those cabinets.
     
  4. john4200

    john4200 Active Member

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    No. Well, yes, that may true, but it is not the main reason for the document. The problem is if someone else starts trouble, specifically, her father. She could tell her father, and he could take action, without ever mentioning Rachel. The signed document would discourage her father, since the firm would tell him how they would go after Rachel if Zane came after the firm. I already posted about this.
     
  5. Beryl

    Beryl Well-Known Member

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    This entire scenario helps me to better understand why Harvey was so mad that he told Rachel. Telling a wife is risky but a girlfriend? And the daughter of Zane? I'll never forget that scene with Specter and Zane on the golf course when Zane offered him a $20 (or some such crazy amount) to settle. Zane is ruthless.
     
  6. Regina

    Regina I've got Jewbs!

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    I know there is a suspension of disbelief, but how could those cabinets not be locked? :p
     
  7. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give em Hell, Devils

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    Sorry for the thread bump. Just got caught up.

    Donna is loyal to Harvey, not Mike. And frankly, I was a little surprised that Jessica didn't already know. Mike and Rachel are not careful to conceal their feelings for each other around the office, so it never occurred to me they were trying to keep it secret from Jessica. And it makes Jessica look pretty bad that she's the managing partner of the firm yet it took her this long to figure this out?

    That's the basic plot of the show. It's part of the original 30-second pitch. Nothing has been done to fix that problem, so I don't see how it could have a final resolution. Unless Mike either goes to law school and passes the bar, or gets caught, it's always going to be the underlying issue this series has to deal with. I would be irresponsible of them to just sweep it under the rug.
     
  8. john4200

    john4200 Active Member

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    That is splitting hairs. Mike is part of Harvey's inner circle and therefore, anyone loyal to Harvey must be an ally to Mike. Especially in this situation, where it is Jessica vs. Mike, there is no doubt that Harvey would support Mike over Jessica. This would all be completely obvious to Donna.

    Even if you deny those obvious points, there is still the fact that Donna did not tell Harvey (who would have instantly told Mike).

    Donna clearly became a hypocrite with that betrayal of trust. You might claim that she panicked and can therefore be excused. But you could also make the same claim about what Mike did when Jessica attacked, and Donna really let Mike have it for that betrayal.

    There is no getting around it. Donna is now a hypocrite. The show really assassinated her character with this episode.
     
  9. cheesesteak

    cheesesteak Meh.

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    The new season is here. I don't know if anybody wants to start a new thread. Feel free to do so if you like.

    I'm not sure I'm going to last the whole season. I was tired of Mike's relationship drama with Rachel last season. That's still here and now we're going to have Harvey and Scottie as a couple and their inevitable back stabbing bs and whatever conflict with Jessica it causes. I still think they waste Louis by making him be a clown and for Pete's sake, please stop the Mike Ross didn't go to Harvard Law witch hunt. It's played out already.
     
  10. Beryl

    Beryl Well-Known Member

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    Actually we are in the same season (3) -- the second half.

    I have to agree regarding the Rachel/Mike drama. It was kinda cool when Pappa Zane was introduced but now I don't care. I also don't care about Harvey and Scottie although they also make a cute couple. They need some really interesting cases and one case that consumes and possibly threatens some of their lives.

    I'm wondering what they plan to do to keep fan interest since all of their subplots have been played out.
     
  11. Steveknj

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey

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    This used to be one of my favorite shows, but I wonder if it's just played out. I think part of the problem is that the core set of characters hasn't changed from day one, so there's really not much between any of them that hasn't been done already. Making Scottie a regular might change that, but, it's typical TV storytelling to try and "settle down" the self absorbed ladies man, which is what they are trying to do. Louis' witch hunt about Mike and Harvard is still the only really interesting thing left between these characters. I'll keep watching for awhile because of the eye candy and hope that the stories get better.
     
  12. betts4

    betts4 I am Spartacus!

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    I agree - Harvey "settling down" would be sad. But you know, I KNEW he was going to somehow pay that 'buy in' money for Scottie. I think she overreacted a bit when learning of it. I am guessing, it will be her that breaks his heart. She doesn't seem to want to acknowledge that what he is doing is TRYING to change and working at it in the ways that he has seen others do.

    I loved Rachel's IKEA remark about Mike's furniture. You could see it.

    And Donna playing Louis about getting information and such was great too.
     
  13. Timbeau

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    I'd love for them to get back to what made this series so good, the law cases and political infighting, but all this personal drama sure drains the life out of the show. It's good to have a bit about the character's personal lives, it makes things interesting, but as a sideline not the main focus.
     
  14. cheesesteak

    cheesesteak Meh.

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    I expected Harvey to pay half of her buy in but wasn't surprised that he paid all of it with the way she was whining.

    I remember a couple of years ago where it seemed like the firm had a lot of senior partners, enough to fill a conference room. Now it just seems to be Jessica, Harvey, Louis (?) and now Scottie.
     
  15. zordude

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    This is my least favorite part, and I wish they would just drop it or conclude it.
     
  16. markz

    markz Hilarity Ensues

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    Best part of the show for me! She is so damn good! And so damn hot!
     
  17. mcb08

    mcb08 Hoya for life!!

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    I know that we're supposed to suspend belief, but wouldn't the professor have wondered why he didn't recognize Mike, since all members of the firm went to Harvard, and his Ethics class was mandatory?
     
  18. Agatha Mystery

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    Only the lawyers are supposed to have gone to Harvard. However, there's nothing saying that Mike could have been a paralegal (and they don't have to have gone to Harvard). He was yelled at for not completing some work, but that doesn't mean that he was a lawyer. The ethics professor could have assumed that it was something else. I can see paralegals attending an ethics seminar, and finding it useful. Considering all of the other attorneys (or a vast majority of them) had taken the man's class, there isn't much that they're going to get out of his lecture (unless he's written a new book he wants them to read).
     
  19. mcb08

    mcb08 Hoya for life!!

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    That's a valid explanation. For some reason, I thought that Louis was inviting all of the associates to the lecture.
     
  20. scandia101

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

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    He may have wondered that, but that doesn't mean he's going to verbalize it.
    There's no reason to expect that he would remember all of his students ~5 years later.
     

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