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Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by terpfan1980, Aug 7, 2012.
i'm gonna guess they will go with adam glambert.
Actually, Glee's ratings dropped pretty drastically last season, probably even more on a percentage basis than Idol's did.
I read that at Comic-Con they moved the Glee panel from one of the largest halls to a much smaller one, and some were predicting that would turn out to be a bad idea. But when the panel actually happened, the smaller room didn't even fill up.
Basically, the bloom is definitely off the Glee rose.
I thought Simon was great because he was funny and also because having him there was like taking little Susie, the hometown kid who is always told by her friends/family that she could be a star, and plopping her in front of a studio exec who is going to listen to her for 20 seconds and then be brutally honest with her. To me, that is what made Idol a big deal. Jimmy brought back a little of that. He's brutally honest but not as funny as Simon and having him do it after the fact takes away from the impact.
I think Idol needs someone like that. If they go with some boyband type, then I think the show is done for. There's too much competition now, where there used to be none. I think Idol was on the right track with Kara, but picked the wrong person. A female version of Simon would be interesting. I don't see Mariah filling that role.
I see Mariah filling the bat-**** crazy trainwreck role previously held by Paula Abdul. They still need to find the brutally honest yet extremely knowledgable person to fill the Simon role. That's been lacking since he left, and he'd actually toned it down a little in the couple seasons before he left.
I'd love to see Trace Adkins, but I don't think he'd be mean enough (Simon-esque) to make it worthwhile.
And yes, please get rid of Randy while you're at it!!!!
We should not lump Mariah Carey in with Paula Abdul just because both are crazy. Unlike Paula, Mariah is one of the best singers of her generation.
Yes, Mariah has an amazing voice. But just like some great athletes aren't able to coach, because they can't relate to someone that doesn't have their physical abilities, it's not an automatic slam dunk that Mariah would be a good judge or be able to provide valuable feedback just because she's able to sing. But the fact that she's crazy is likely to provide some interesting TV. I think the producers are almost more interested in the latter than they are in the former.
I think Mariah will be more like Christina on The Voice. Paula didn't really own up to being a singer because she knew she wasn't a great singer.
What I had read somewhere initially was that Idol was supposed to be pushing Randy Jackson into a "mentors" role, replacing him with another Judge as well as replacing J.Lo and Tyler with new judges. In the interim they apparently have backtracked a little and are possibly going to have to keep Randy Jackson in the judges seat and simply find a replacement for Tyler.
As suggested above though, they need someone that would be more like Simon - that brutally honest judge that tells the would be stars very bluntly that they'll never be a star, or that they just aren't good enough, etc. They haven't had that since Simon Cowell left, and really not that much with him in the last few seasons as they apparently got him toned down and less mean. I think that was a mistake where some focus groups must have suggested that some viewers were turned off by Simon, which was likely true, but more people were probably watching just to see how mean he might get, as well as watching to see just how ditzy Paula was going to get on any given night.
Also as above, I think Kara could have been the right kind of person for the show, but more in a "replaces Simon" type role, rather than as a 4th wheel. Since she's been there and gone though, no reason to turn back, so they are left to try to find a judge that can be that honest (and inherently seem mean), which is not necessarily an easy thing to find as I think the people that would take the job don't want to appear mean as it could be bad for their own careers.
Even though I've still been watching, I definitely watched *for* Simon.
(I only got into the show a couple seasons in, and for one or two seasons, I think I watched mostly just the initial auditions and barely paid attention from then on.. then I got into the show as a whole. The American Idol Rewind show was pretty good at letting me see the previous seasons, though for weird rights reasons, some episodes were basically confetti versions of the original episodes.)
I saw a little here and there over the last two years and I liked the dynamic they had with Steven and Jennifer. Now that they have another diva to replace Jennifer, I'll throw out Kid Rock to replace Steven. I saw some of his episode of "Crossroads" with Hank Jr. and recently saw him in concert and the guy's got personality.
Shania Twain hasn't recorded anything at all since her husband cheated on her with her best friend.... and then she ended up marrying her best friend's husband. Essentially, they just traded spouses, creepy really. But, I admit Shania Twain wouldn't have gotten close with the other husband had her husband and best friend not had their affair to start with. Oh and Shania did have a reality show on OWN for a bit, even the country music fan that I am, lost interest quick. So my vote for Shania Twain as a judge on American Idol would be NO.
Trace Adkins would be FAR to nice!! If you've ever seen him in an interview or anything like it, he's the nicest guy he can be. I don't know that he would have it in him to be honest with the contestants.
Put Ted Nugent on there!!
Not one of MY faves, but someone like Kelly Clarkson would have potential, simply because she's been through the process and knows what it entails and can lead to.
As long as whomever it is can be brutally honest, it really doesn't matter. The show is practically dead anyway. I heard that Randy was considering leaving, too. What happened with that? Probably offered too much money to refuse!
Kelly Clarkson has said that she would not be willing to be a judge on the show (and that she sees herself more as the mentor type). She suggested they try to get Carrie Underwood to be a judge this season.
there's a report going around that they are talking to Joe Jonas and Puff Daddy P Diddy Poor Doddy or whatever he calls himself today.
(seriously that would end the show for me.)
I liked Neil Patrick Harris and Shania Twain when they did guest judge gigs.
Shania Twain actually did have a new recording in the last year. It did "OK" but didn't seem to get much airplay. She had developed a pretty bad and persistent case of stage fright, but that has happened to other artists in the past as well and given how her marriage broke up and the relative importance of her ex to her career it is not a surprise that she had issues resuming her career as a singer.
That "new" Shania song was "Today is Your Day" a highly repetitive song that repeats that lyric over and over again. That's probably why it didn't get that much airplay (as it would have bored listeners quickly).
She also worked with Lionel Richie on his Tuskeegee project, on the song Endless Love.
Meanwhile, she is readying for a resumption of her live performance career, with a show planned for 12/1/12 at Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas.
Hopefully that will get her career going again and maybe we'll see more substantial recordings from her not long after
NO CURRENT SINGERS/PERFORMERS!!!
This is what ruined this last season. And I'm a fan of ST, and I like JLo ok. But the problem is that they are afraid to tell anyone the cold hard truth because they don't want to hurt their own fan base. And then they always want to get up and perform. I hate that.
Paula was always too nice to the contestants but she had Simon there to counter her remarks. That's what made it entertaining. Last season was so sugar coated that it was hardly worth watching.