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Discussion in 'TiVo Stream' started by ilovedvrs, Jan 24, 2014.
Was there a CableLabs rule about removable storage?
Many androids have to store to micro-SD card.
My android phone doesn't even have a micro-SD card slot. It only has internal storage. The one thing I dislike about it.
There are no CableLabs rules about this at all. The only reason TiVo can do it is because the cable companies set a precedent with their own devices first. That's why you can only download shows which are "copy freely" and you can only stream protected content inside the home. TiVo is walking a very fine line when it comes to legality with the Stream which is why they are probably being so cautious about it.
Meanwhile Echostar/Dish sells Slingboxes and sat receivers with built-in sling features. So you can't blame the content owners on this one.
Yep, and Sling has an Android app too. And a small company like SiliconDust rolls out an Android app that supports protected content streaming directly from their tuners. Meanwhile Tivo rolls out nothing.
I see that protected channels can be streamed also with this app.
After everything is said and done. It becomes pretty obvious that Tivo would rather not do anything to upset it's current and future cableco partners and won't provide certain features to it's retail customers to accomplish this.
I hope that by now, all android users would have given up on the Tivo Stream ever working for them and moved on to Slingbox.
Personally I'm hoping they roll out updated apps to use higher resolutions and to be able to not use the proxy for OOH streaming. I mean my iPhone has a screen resolution of 1136x640 and even with the best wireless network connection the best the Stream sends to it is 960x540, and my iPad Mini Retina has a screen resolution of 2048×1536 and even with the best wireless network connection the best the Stream sends to it is 1280x720 which isn't bad at all but still not utilizing the full potential the Stream is capable of.
Which again is an indication that they are covering their ass by using a proxy server (i.e. degrading content delivery), instead of standing up for their customers and allowing direct streaming/download OOH. The problem here, as always, is that Tivo is trying to straddle both sides of the fence. Sling doesn't have these issues because they're not in bed with the cableCos.
It is obvious it is not because Tivo can't develop an Android app, it is because they don't want to.
Get over it.
I guess that Tivo can get over those missing sales. Tivo is so profitable, who needs sales to Android users?
Tivo made a business decision. Customers need to decide where to spend their money, not decide to p & m on a discussion forum.
P & M is one reason discussion forums exist. Are you new to the internet? And I did decide to spend my money on a Slingbox 350. Great decision I must say.
No, I am not new to the Internet, but you must be since you think this is a Slingbox discussion forum.
You said that consumers must decide where to spend their money. I answered you with my decision. Sorry if the truth hurts you.
moedaman isn't worth the trouble.
but he is correct
The absolute maximum resolution is 1920x1080, so no matter what it would be less then your iPad. And given the screen size of the iPad you'd be very, very, hard pressed to see the difference between a 1280x720 and 1920x1080 stream, so why waste the bandwidth and encoding time?
If you really think there is a difference try it on your own. Download a show to your PC via TiVoToGo then use something like Handbreak to recode the exact same video to those two resolutions and see if you can actually see a difference when played on your iPhone/iPad. You almost certainly wont.
The only reason for them to increase the resolution would be if they supported AirPlay or HDMI out so you could watch on a big screen. They don't currently support that so saving bits and time are better options.
At first I would have agreed with you. Back in September of 2012 when the Stream was released it made perfect sense that they only released for iOS. But then in November of that year a TiVo employee posted on this forum that they were working on Android support and their website listed Android support as "coming soon". Now here it is 2 years later and it's still not here. That's just crazy!
It really is amazing that this is taking soooo long!
The general consensus here seems to be a dedicated team would not need almost 2 years to complete the Android client, therefore there must be another explanation. If we assume the Tivo employee was not lying in November, 2012, then Tivo has made the business decision to either not release the Android client, they put the developers on other projects, e.g., Haxe, etc.
As was mentioned in another thread, there are so many versions of Android, Tivo could have decided they didn't want the support headaches from a product that wouldn't generate any revenue. Would you?