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Stream no longer is useful because everything is copyright protected.

Discussion in 'TiVo Stream' started by esilbe1, Jun 16, 2014.

  1. randy1649

    randy1649 Member

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    Ok... Im not sure why but I see the problem.
    When I went to my PLUS unit to watch recordings off one of the BASIC units, all the recordings listed on the PLUS looking at the BASIC units had red X's and a note that THIS SHOW CAN NOT BE TRANSFERRED DUE TO COPYRIHGT.
    So when I PLAYED-streamed one of these shows that said CAN NOT BE TRANSFERRED, the red "X" went away and that show was available to transfer and or download to another unit AND to my iPad.

    So this is definitely NOT a cable company copyright issue BUT some firmware issue on the tivo itself. These, most all these recordings are flagged as copyright and not downloadable-transferable. But after playing the show from one tivo to another the red "X" and copyright warning totally disappears and the show is no longer flagged as copyrighted.

    I just played recording after recording for only a few seconds each, while sitting at the PLUS tivo unit and accessing recordings off one of the BASIC units where all the BASIC recordings were red flagged. And after playing the recording for only a few seconds, the red flag was removed or gone. Then all these recordings were now flag-free and available to download to another tivo AND OR a mobile device.

    I'll play with this more later.
    Possibly if I restart the tivo units, all the red flags will be reset and removed all at once.
    Sounds like a firmware issue to me and absolutely not a cable card or cable company issue.
    These recordings are being flagged IN ERROR by the tivo.

    If you do not have a least 2 tivo units, I do not know how you will determine the shows flagged in error or not.
    If you do have more than one tivo, and you have this copyright flagged issue when transferring to a mobile device, just go to one of your 2 tivos and look at the recordings on the OTHER tivo as if you were going to watch from another room.
    And look to see if your recordings on that remotely viewed tivo are indeed all red flagged.
    I bet they are....
    Then like I did, just start playing-streaming tivo-to-tivo the recordings off the remote tivo one by one, for just a second or two, then list again the recordings off that remote tivo you are accessing and the red flags will now be GONE on those recordings you played-streamed for a few seconds.

    For those with just one tivo and a stand-alone stream unit, try restarting your tivo.
    And try also power cycling your tivo stream unit as well.

    Most of these non-premium channel recordings should "NOT" be red flagged as copyrighted.
    And actually they are NOT actually copyrighted.
    It looks to be a fluke with the firmware and or the stream feature.
    Tivo should address this.
    This is easy to debug if you have 2 or more networked tivo's. And then alert tivo support.
     
  2. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Weird. Maybe they got misflagged in the last software update
     
  3. meyerweb

    meyerweb New Member

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    Man, I'm glad I decided to do some searches before ordering. The lack of stream support for Android, and the copyright issues described in this thread, have me seriously reconsidering upgrading my old Tivo box.
     
  4. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    For me the copyright issue isn't really a problem. It just depends on your cable company. Mine only locks the premium channels, and even then they only lock the primary premium channels so if I use the east cost feed they're all unlocked, as are HBO2, SHO2, etc....
     
  5. shrike4242

    shrike4242 Member

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    I'll have to see if Charter has such a loophole on the "2" versions of the channels here are unlocked to copy/transfer.

    From what I've seen over the past few years with Charter, they only seem to CC flag the premium channels (HBO, Cinemax, Showtime, TMC, Starz, Encore, Epix, FLIX, plus a couple I think I'm missing), though anything else is open to be copied/transferred. Streaming hasn't be an issue on anything, from Tivo to Tivo or to iPad from Tivo.

    I did have one random occurrence like randy1649 had on one of my Tivos, my S3, where broadcast channels were flagged with the CC flag as were everything else, though a reboot seemed to fix it because the Tivo wasn't reading the flags right.
     

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