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Stream = Apple ONLY ?

Discussion in 'TiVo Stream' started by SalemCat, Oct 21, 2012.

  1. Austin Bike

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    If you spent any time working with Microsoft you would find that when there is something that they want, development dollars are available. If they "buy" the development, that would push it to the front faster than the android that they have to pay to create.

    NRE goes a long way in getting your things done.
     
  2. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    Interesting.

    • Not comfortable with arbitrary rules or popular trends - check.
    • Questions authority out of hand - check.
    • Independent thinker - check.
    • Cares very little what others think of them - check.
    • If they choose to partake of a popular item (for me, it's TiVo), the popularity is purely incidental to the nature of the item - check.
    Seems that I am 100% goat. I don't know if that's good or bad. :D
     
  3. ort

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    I should probably just let this go, but whatever... reading this story today made me think of this thread...

    http://allthingsd.com/20121125/were-holiday-shopping-online-with-ipads-for-ipads/

    Just to sum up, total Black Friday shopping traffic...

    iPhones = 8.7% of total traffic
    iPads = 9.8% of total traffic
    All of Android = 5.5% of total traffic

    Breaking down just the tablets:
    iPad = 88% of traffic
    Kindle = 2.4%
    Galaxy = 1.8%
    Nook = 3.1%
    Other = 4.4%
     
  4. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    I didn't even turn on any of my tablets on Black Friday. Any online shopping I did, I used my desktop PCs. And I definitely had no desire to shop with my cell phones ultra tiny 4.3" screen. I couldn't imagine doing it on the iPhones even smaller screens.
     
  5. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I used my iPad to do some shopping while watching TV. In fact I find that I do 95% of my couch surfing on my iPad now even though I have a full blown Windows laptop sitting under the coffee table.

    Dan
     
  6. ShayL

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    Why don't you swap that windows laptop for a mac and port VideoReDo over to mac? ;)
     
  7. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    If it were that simple I would have done it a long time ago. Unfortunately VRD is heavily rooted in Windows APIs and would need almost a complete rewrite to port to mac.

    Dan
     
  8. ShayL

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    I would expect nothing less than that. Cocoa and Objective C take a while to become fluent in.
     
  9. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    If we ever do it we'll likely move all the low level routines into simple C++ classes that can be cross compiled and use something cross platform, like QT, for the UI. That way we can have one product for both platforms. Although some stuff, like the codecs, might still be a problem as not all of the ones we use are available in Mac builds.

    We're getting way off topic here though. :)

    Dan
     
  10. ScaryMike

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  11. mattack

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    Oh thanks, I must have missed that.. That's another reason for me to get an iPad sooner. (Using it for downloaded Tivo Stream material is another.)

    Bummer, I wish it were on the iPhone too.
     
  12. Aero 1

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    how about you get off the sofa and start on a Mac version ;)

    how about some kind of imovie plugin? i can imagine you are missing a nice market segment. especially that tivo went all in with iOS so far.
     
  13. Dan203

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    I actually considered doing an iOS version after the Stream was released, but then I discovered that the shows downloaded by the Stream are encrypted so there is no way an iOS version would ever be able to touch them. (I was hoping they would be standard MP4 files stored in the common video directory)

    I'm sure we are missing a bit of market share by not having a Mac version, but Macs still make a relatively small percentage of the total market and with Parallels and Boot Camp Mac users can easily boot into Windows and use VideoReDo if they want.

    Dan
     
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    badtuned

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    Has there been any info how the stream is protected. Just trying to understand if it's possible to do own hacks if someone is willing to use time to investigate/hack these streams.
     
  15. Dec 1, 2012 #115 of 246
    Dan203

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    Based on my brief investigation it appears that they use encrypted HLS, which uses https encryption which would be very difficult to hack.

    Dan
     
  16. Dec 3, 2012 #116 of 246
    vurbano

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    who makes these asinine decisions to only support Iphones and Ipads? Is tivo trying to put themselves out of business? First the do not build the ability to stream into the boxes themselves making you buy a silly add on streaming box and then they restrict streaming to a tiny share of the market? :confused:
     
  17. Dec 3, 2012 #117 of 246
    vurbano

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    same here.
     
  18. Dec 3, 2012 #118 of 246
    Davisadm

    Davisadm TiVo is awesome!!!!!

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    What is asinine about only supporting iPhones and iPads, for now? They, especially the iPad, hold the largest market share!
     
  19. Dec 3, 2012 #119 of 246
    Arcady

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    Apple currently holds 71% of the tablet market. How is that a tiny share?
     
  20. Dec 3, 2012 #120 of 246
    morac

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