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Stream = Apple ONLY ?

Discussion in 'TiVo Stream' started by SalemCat, Oct 21, 2012.

  1. ort

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    http://allthingsd.com/20131017/verizon-could-have-sold-more-iphones-in-the-third-quarter/

    I can't believe I'm bothering, but here's data from Verizon's financial report for the quarter. 51% of all smartphone activations were iPhones. Up 26% from the same quarter last year and they were supply constrained.

    This isn't some goofball survey from some analytics firm no one has ever heard of. These are real numbers from the largest carrier on the planet.

    The last quarter was the same. All of the big carriers in the states saw iPhone sales higher than Android. AT&T was like 70% iOS and 30% other.
     
  2. aaronwt

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    Wasn't the large percenatge of apple phones because of the release of the new model? What is the percentage of Apple phones activated during a quarter when there isn't a new product.
     
  3. NotVeryWitty

    NotVeryWitty Too Big to Fail

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    Ummm, you do realize that they only released the new models 10 days before the end of the quarter, don't you?
     
  4. aaronwt

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    Yes, and they set sales records. In just the first few days they sold nine million iPhones. Which means all those phones were getting activated at the end of the quarter. I would think way more than normal. But I did not see what their normal iPhone activations were for each quarter in the article. So maybe that is still a normal number of activations or it is much higher than normal? They did mention activations from a year ago, but that would have also been when a new model was released last year. It didn't show what the average activations are for a quarter.
     
  5. ort

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    I don't have the links, but the previous quarter was roughly the same.

    I think on Verizon it was 50% iPhone, 45% Android, 5% other.

    And on AT&T it was 70% iPhone.

    Sprint was less than 50% iPhone and T Mobile had their biggest sales quarter ever in when they launched the iPhone on their network.
     
  6. ort

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    http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/18/4532886/verizon-q2-2013-earnings-financials

    HEre's Verizon. It looks like AT&T didn't announce the numbers last quarter. I think it was two quarters ago when they hit 70%. I'm not sure. Not motivated to spend more than 3 minutes looking. The iPhone has been doing a lot better in the states since they expanded to all of the carriers.

    I think what's happening is that a lot of people who didn't want to switch to AT&T and bought bad early generation Android phones are switching over when their contracts are up.

    http://bgr.com/2013/04/25/iphone-market-share-q1-2013-us-464944/

    The bottom line is that both platforms are healthy and thriving and that's a good thing.
     
  7. DeWitt

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  8. Austin Bike

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    Great article. Clearly sums up everything I have been saying to date. It does not let TiVo off the hook for taking so long on android support but clearly lays out why iOS was first. And probably always will be.
     
  9. mr_smits

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    Interesting article. However, he seems to have failed some basic research. His point about Pinterest not having Windows Phone Apps is incorrect, and his comment about Instagram is currently correct -- for the next few weeks. An app is expected soon.

    That being said, I agree that for infant companies that are struggling to even survive past 12 months, picking a single OS (iOS or Android) and doing it amazingly is the goal. If it truly is cheaper for a new company to develop an iOS app first, then it makes sense to use resources wisely. Tivo has been around for 15 years and has hundreds of employees. Tivo doesn't get to use those excuses that baby companies can cling to.
     
  10. morac

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  11. Balzer

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    A few weeks ago I came across a great deal for a Stream so I bought it, even though I don't have an iOS device. But I know SOMEDAY they will release Android support... right?

    I have a crappy old Android (Samsung Charge)... and it's now eligible for an upgrade. I really really want the Galaxy S4, but am considering going to the dark side for the OOH streaming...

    Of course who really knows for sure how long before they release OOH for the Stream too.....

    So there is my conundrum... I actually have nothing against iPhones per se. I just like Droids. What to do? :)
     
  12. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    Keep your phone, get an iPad mini that just went on sale.

    It will be available for the stand alone Stream in a couple of weeks.
     
  13. Balzer

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    Thanks I might look into that!

    However, I am going to be upgrading to a new phone soon anyway. I was just wondering out loud if I should upgrade to the Galaxy S4 that I want, or get an iPhone 5 instead for the streaming... I am not much of an iPad or tablet person. Just another thing to carry around.. :)
     
  14. aaronwt

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    This is what I almost did when the stream launched. Fortunately I didnt. Three Android tablets later and still no stream support. When the new Nexus 10 comes out I will have another but still no android support.
     
  15. sdnative1

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    Until Tivo Stream works with Android, no deal! Perhaps Tivo didn't get the memo that only iPads outsell Android devices. But Android phones and Phablets, outsell iPhones worldwide.
     
  16. Austin Bike

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    That fact has been flogged over and over here, but the reality is that the level of OS in ose devices is not always the most current. If you want to make the market share argument you need to look at OS levels, and many of the android products being sold today at the low end of the price bands are still on older versions of the OS. And, for that matter, you need to look at sales of iOS and android in the countries where TiVo is sold, not just the wolrdwide numbers as they do vary greatly by country.
     
  17. mr_smits

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    It's worth repeating since a major new Tivo feature was just enabled -- BUT just Apple devices. But yes. All the excuses (most of which are lame; some have a shred of legitimacy) can be found in this thread.
     
  18. Dan203

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    The technical limitations are real and there are lots of articles around the web about difficulty streaming video to Android. Services like Netflix, HBO, etc... are different then the Stream because they are feeding video from a web based server where they can easily store multiple copies/streams of each program to appease different devices. The TiVo stream is a tiny little box with very limited hardware capabilities that is essentially doing live streaming. The options available there are more limited.

    That being said it sounds like they got most of the HLS bugs worked out in Android 4.2, so I'm betting that when the TiVo app is finally released it's going to require 4.2+. And there are going to be threads on here b*tching about how TiVo is a bunch of idiots for not supporting older devices and how people were duped into buying because of promised Android support, etc..., etc...

    Unless they can some how figure out how to support every device ever made, which is highly unlikely, people are going to complain.
     
  19. Austin Bike

    Austin Bike New Member

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    Yes, there is no way for them to make everyone happy. No matter what is released, they will get skewered.
     
  20. aaronwt

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    That is still something. Hopefully I will be rid of all my Android devices running a version lower than 4.2 by the end of the year.
     

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